From alexbclark at pennswoods.net  Sat Aug  3 20:20:36 2013
From: alexbclark at pennswoods.net (Alexander Clark)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 20:20:36 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Timing of the seguito spezzato in Il Ballarino
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Something that was on my mind sometimes while at Pennsic is the
question of whether we're doing any close approximation of the seguito
spezzato. You see, the way I read Il Ballarino (the source of many of
our dances with this seguito in them), the actions match the beats as
follows:

Beat 1: Step on left foot.

Beginning of beat 2: Place right foot by left heel and raise both
heels and the body.

Ending of beat 2: Body and left heel come down again.

And on beat 3, one begins the second seguito spezzato.

So my understanding is that if you were to count this as six quick
beats (with stress on 1 and 4), the right foot would be placed on 4,
and one would come down onto the full left foot on 6. That doesn't
seem to be how we usually do it. Is there some evidence against this
version?

-- 
Henry/Alex

From mrailing2 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  4 12:45:32 2013
From: mrailing2 at yahoo.com (Mary Railing)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Timing of the seguito spezzato in Il Ballarino
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Remember that each step begins on the upbeat so that the foot *lands* on the first beat. That means that after the first spezzato, the trailing foot is already coming forward at the end of the previous measure (beat 6, if you are counting two triple beats as 1-6). So although it is possible to do *one* spezzato with the heel of the leading foot not coming down until beat 6, a series of spezzati requires one to anticipate the beat by bringing the trailing foot up to the leading foot on beat 3, rising, and lowering the body and the heel of the leading foot on beat 4. In theory, one could postpone the lowering until beat 5, but cascarda music tends to accent beats 1,3,4,6.

--Urraca

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 From: Alexander Clark <alexbclark at pennswoods.net>
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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:20 PM
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Timing of the seguito spezzato in Il Ballarino
 

Something that was on my mind sometimes while at Pennsic is the
question of whether we're doing any close approximation of the seguito
spezzato. You see, the way I read Il Ballarino (the source of many of
our dances with this seguito in them), the actions match the beats as
follows:

Beat 1: Step on left foot.

Beginning of beat 2: Place right foot by left heel and raise both
heels and the body.

Ending of beat 2: Body and left heel come down again.

And on beat 3, one begins the second seguito spezzato.

So my understanding is that if you were to count this as six quick
beats (with stress on 1 and 4), the right foot would be placed on 4,
and one would come down onto the full left foot on 6. That doesn't
seem to be how we usually do it. Is there some evidence against this
version?

-- 
Henry/Alex
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From alexbclark at pennswoods.net  Sun Aug  4 16:30:19 2013
From: alexbclark at pennswoods.net (Alexander Clark)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:30:19 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Timing of the seguito spezzato in Il Ballarino
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I'm not convinced by the reasoning quoted below, because I've found my
hypothetical version to be practicable, though not easy. What sems
more difficult is doing this hypothetical version before a cadenza,
but I would not want to assume that it wasn't done that way just
because it isn't easy.

But this analysis is suggesting something to me that might be a more
fruitful line of inquiry. Do we have any evidence that would tell us
what Caroso really means by "principiar la seconda battuta" and "fine
della battuta"? Can it be proven that (if one counts like
"one-and-ah-two-and-ah") these are either "ah" followed by "two", or
"two" followed by "ah"? I had initially assumed the latter, but that
might be because of my modern American background.

I suppose the first thing to look at would be the ending of this same
rule. When Caroso says, "Poi nel principiar la terza battuta, ha da
passar' innanzi col destro . . .", does this mean that the right foot
is being placed on the ground, or very specifically that it is moving
but not yet being placed on the ground, or does it not clearly mean
one or the other? If this is where the foot is placed, then
"principiar" apparently refers to the "three", but if the foot must
not yet be placed, then it refers to "ah" before "three". (Of course,
having but a smattering of Italian, I hardly know the answer to this
question.)

-- 
Henry/Alex

On 8/4/13, Mary Railing <mrailing2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Remember that each step begins on the upbeat so that the foot *lands* on the
> first beat. That means that after the first spezzato, the trailing foot is
> already coming forward at the end of the previous measure (beat 6, if you
> are counting two triple beats as 1-6). So although it is possible to do
> *one* spezzato with the heel of the leading foot not coming down until beat
> 6, a series of spezzati requires one to anticipate the beat by bringing the
> trailing foot up to the leading foot on beat 3, rising, and lowering the
> body and the heel of the leading foot on beat 4. In theory, one could
> postpone the lowering until beat 5, but cascarda music tends to accent beats
> 1,3,4,6.
>
> --Urraca
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Alexander Clark <alexbclark at pennswoods.net>
> To: sca-dance at sca-dance.org
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:20 PM
> Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Timing of the seguito spezzato in Il Ballarino
>
>
> Something that was on my mind sometimes while at Pennsic is the
> question of whether we're doing any close approximation of the seguito
> spezzato. You see, the way I read Il Ballarino (the source of many of
> our dances with this seguito in them), the actions match the beats as
> follows:
>
> Beat 1: Step on left foot.
>
> Beginning of beat 2: Place right foot by left heel and raise both
> heels and the body.
>
> Ending of beat 2: Body and left heel come down again.
>
> And on beat 3, one begins the second seguito spezzato.
>
> So my understanding is that if you were to count this as six quick
> beats (with stress on 1 and 4), the right foot would be placed on 4,
> and one would come down onto the full left foot on 6. That doesn't
> seem to be how we usually do it. Is there some evidence against this
> version?
>
> --
> Henry/Alex
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From catalanadineri at gmail.com  Thu Aug 15 22:20:31 2013
From: catalanadineri at gmail.com (Erica Neely)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:20:31 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] New dance sources?
Message-ID: <CAHEQ-hKJkKwF0-abs0CEvB3Pe908qO3HppMe9vSuwC4zVfsYwg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I used to be fairly active in dancing some years ago, but I've been
completely out of the SCA for five years.  (Moved, new job, bought a house,
etc.). I'm getting involved again, but I'm curious as to what new and
interesting sources might have appeared.  (The last hot discovery in my
time was the Gresley manuscript dances.)

Suggestions?  Salutations?  Recommendations I just run for the hills?

In service,

Catalana di Neri
(Still Middle Kingdom, just east a bit)

From judithsca at aol.com  Fri Aug 16 03:56:51 2013
From: judithsca at aol.com (Rachel/Judith)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 03:56:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] KWDS 2015 Survey
Message-ID: <8D0686D4CFF12E7-F68-3A827@webmail-d248.sysops.aol.com>


So, we have had 36 responses so far - if you have not yet responded to the survey, please do! Note that I have added a comment field at the end for any comments/suggestions.


http://de.surveymonkey.com/s/SG8GFGK

Judith

From pennsic.eurodance at gmail.com  Tue Aug 13 13:19:27 2013
From: pennsic.eurodance at gmail.com (European Dance Pennsic War)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:19:27 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  Pennsic European Dance Thanks and Wrap Up
Message-ID: <CAB-WBxTMfvmc4uZpkEL4+zGRmRs9uNkHXE6zVVUehn_0vgJqAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Unto the dance community of Pennsic and beyond, do I, Margherita Battistina,
wish to convey my deepest gratitude for a wonderful Pennsic!  I have been
overwhelmed by the show of support you gave me this year, and I can only
hope you had as fantastic a Pennsic as I.

Now that we are all home and settling back into our other lives, I would like
to ask you to think back on your experiences in the Pennsic Dance Pavilion
this year, and send me your feedback.  Were there things you especially
liked, people you?d like to compliment, or problems of which I should be
made aware?  Please let me know by sending me an email at pennsic (dot)
eurodance (at) gmail (dot) com.

I experienced so many wonderful things this year, but I?d like to
highlight some
of my favorites:
> The European Dance Flash Mob was so awesome that Pennsic site staff came out
and took videos of it!  One of them allowed me to upload their video, which
you can all now watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0FBSoQZdk !
> We had more compliments in the Comments box commending the Youth Dance Track
and the people who made it happen than we had about everything else
combined!
> There was an actual, unplanned proposal during Saturday night?s ball!
> The Class Attendance Contest was a huge hit, and the winner had 20 beads!

It takes so many people to make this event happen, and while I have
your attention
I?d like to thank all that I can.  The list is long, but every one of these
people deserves our thanks!

Floor Coordinators and Pavilion Steward, Lord Connor Roe, Lord Vels
inn Viggladi,
Lord Gwommy Arpad and THL Darius the Dancer ? without whom the floor
literally would never have happened!
And to the 14 people who volunteered at the Floor setup and the 22 who
volunteered
at Floor break-down ? I?m sorry I don?t know all of your names, but your
service is greatly appreciated!

Music: Music Coordinator Lord Aaron Drummond; Lady Jadwiga Krzyzanowska; Lady
Meg Raynsford; Master Martin Bildner; Master Avatar; Lady Rebecca bint
Cariadoc;
Maugorn the Stray; the bands Musica Sine Nomine, Peascod Gatherers, and
Istanpitta; and the many individual musicians of the pick-up bands

Scheduler, Master Lorenzo Petrucci
Web Minister, Master Gregory Blount
Publicity Coordinator, Lady Lorita de Siena

Lady Betryse Aaradyn Ghyoot for taking the group picture as well as pictures
at many of the balls, and heralding the Beginner?s Ball.

Revels and Open Dancing Hosts: Lord Maurin Lessault, brother Guilaume di San
Marino, Master Conrad Martin von Kassel, Mistress Emma Danskona, Master Martin
Bildner, Lady Sonya Flicker, Lord James Blackcloak, Master Gregory Blount,
Her Majesty Queen Eridani Aureus of Trimaris, Master Lorenzo Petrucci,
Mistress Felice Debbage, and Countess Judith de Northumbria

Teachers: Lady Gianna Vettori, Lady Ginevra Boscoli, Lady Gwenllyen
the Minstrel,
Lady Meg Raynsford, Lady Rebecca bint Cariadoc, Lady Sonya Flicker
(Patches), Lord Dunstan Bramblette, Lord Maurin Lessault, Lord sionn the
lost, THL Henry of Maldon, Baroness Myfanwy ferch Eifion, Baroness Nadezda
ze Zastrizl, Baroness Serafina Alamanni, brother Guilaume di San Marino,
Master Gregory Blount, Master Lorenzo Petrucci, Master Martin Bildner,
Master Sion Andreas o Wynedd, Mistress Alina of Foxwood, Mistress Emma
Danskona, Mistress Felice Debbage, Countess Judith de Nortrhumbria, and the
Saltatoris Dance Guild

And lastly, I?d like to thank the entire Pennsic Staff for making this event
happen.  Without them, we would not have electricity and lights, the fabulous
new registration system, supplies for the dance floor, the tent would not
be up and ready for our use when we arrive, and so much more.  These people
work very hard to make a little magic for us all, and I am grateful that
they do.

Mayor: Mistress Chai?usun
Deputy Mayor of Cultural Affairs: THL Helena Sibylla
Pennsic University Chancellor: Baroness Gwynnyd of York
Pennsic University Registrar: THL Artimisia Lacebrayder
University Point Coordinator: Capt. Elias Gedney (especially for recording all
of our attendance for us!)
Great Hall Scheduler and Dean of the College of Performing Arts: Lady Lorelei
Skye
Quartermasters: Lord Subotai Cinoa and Torin Ironbrow
Deputy Mayor of Technical Services: Lord Gregory Maclay (Tree)
Site Coordinator: Lord Aiben
Pennsic Power & Lights: Lord Magnus of the East

I hope you all have a wonderful fall and look forward to working with you again
next year.

May you find joy in every step!
Margaret


THL Margherita Battistina (Margaret Roe)
Dean of the School of European Dance, Pennsic 42

From john.white at drexel.edu  Mon Aug 19 13:08:59 2013
From: john.white at drexel.edu (White,John)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:08:59 +0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] New dance sources?
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> From:  Erica Neely
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I used to be fairly active in dancing some years ago, but I've been completely
> out of the SCA for five years.  (Moved, new job, bought a house, etc.). I'm
> getting involved again, but I'm curious as to what new and interesting
> sources might have appeared.  (The last hot discovery in my time was the
> Gresley manuscript dances.)
> 
> Suggestions?  Salutations?  Recommendations I just run for the hills?
> 
> In service,
> 
> Catalana di Neri
> (Still Middle Kingdom, just east a bit)

Well, I could mention my own work on the Pattricke/Lovelace/Church manuscript
(a handwritten chapbook from perhaps 1649 containing both new and familiar yet
different English Country Dances), viewable at http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~white/dlovelace.html.

There are (so far) three totally new ECD dances from it that we have music for -
Lightly Love, a kidnapping progressive dance; Milking Pail, a standard 3 (or 4) couple
ECD with many heys; and Road to Westminster, a 4-couple standard ECD with lots of
setting and even some turning.

                \\Dafydd Cyhoeddwr

From pub at andrew.draskoy.net  Mon Aug 19 15:20:14 2013
From: pub at andrew.draskoy.net (Andrew Draskoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:50:14 -0230
Subject: [SCA-Dance] New dance sources?
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	<6CEF9498CE7F2A4AB4B8F0CD27CB36D2060452@MB4.drexel.edu>
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Santucci's manuscript.  It's 1614, but very much in the Caroso/Negri
tradition.  With a LOT more information on steps.


On 19 August 2013 14:38, White,John <john.white at drexel.edu> wrote:

> > From:  Erica Neely
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I used to be fairly active in dancing some years ago, but I've been
> completely
> > out of the SCA for five years.  (Moved, new job, bought a house, etc.).
> I'm
> > getting involved again, but I'm curious as to what new and interesting
> > sources might have appeared.  (The last hot discovery in my time was the
> > Gresley manuscript dances.)
> >
> > Suggestions?  Salutations?  Recommendations I just run for the hills?
> >
> > In service,
> >
> > Catalana di Neri
> > (Still Middle Kingdom, just east a bit)
>
> Well, I could mention my own work on the Pattricke/Lovelace/Church
> manuscript
> (a handwritten chapbook from perhaps 1649 containing both new and familiar
> yet
> different English Country Dances), viewable at
> http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~white/dlovelace.html.
>
> There are (so far) three totally new ECD dances from it that we have music
> for -
> Lightly Love, a kidnapping progressive dance; Milking Pail, a standard 3
> (or 4) couple
> ECD with many heys; and Road to Westminster, a 4-couple standard ECD with
> lots of
> setting and even some turning.
>
>                 \\Dafydd Cyhoeddwr
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From John.Garden at aph.gov.au  Mon Aug 19 22:00:28 2013
From: John.Garden at aph.gov.au (Garden, John (DPS))
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:00:28 +0000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] New dance books
Message-ID: <F8DA814703E60A44936FAD938FCE1112598152A1@EXCHANGE02.parl.net>

All the emails lately about  new dance sources and the dance you've enjoyed at Pennsic, reminds me that I forgot last month to advise everyone about the release of the new edition of my Historic Dance book series. You can read all about them at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/books-cds and find out more and order through the links at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/books-cds/shop. There are 10 chronologically framed volumes (starting from the year 1450) each of between 660 and 740 A4 pages. Each volume is divided into five parts. In Part 1, Dance Context, I consider the social, political and geographic context in which dance was evolving and the continuities and changes in the institution of the ball. In Part 2: Dance Forms, I explore the nature and evolution of the period's main types of dance. In Part 3, Dance Technicalities, I offer sections on 'Style', 'Etiquette', 'Honours', 'Holds', 'Formations', 'Figures' and 'Steps'. In Part 4, Dances in Detail-the longest part-I offer my reconstructions of, and music for, dozens of dances (over 700 across all volumes!). In Part 5: Dancing Masters, I discuss developments in dance teaching, notation and publication, and offer an annotated bibliography of relevant primary sources. Every volume includes hundreds of reproductions, (music and text) transcriptions, translations (from Italian, French, Spanish etc) and illustrations (I'm a big collector of antique dance materials). There's no comparably comprehensive available (which is why I found myself writing these volumes over the last 10 years). 

Of particular interest to SCAers will be Volume I: 1450-1550, Volume II: 1550-1600, Volume III: 1600-1650 and Volume IV: 1650-1700 (for the early links)-and in all of them I deal not only with the more familiar sources, but also less familiar ones-including Gresley, N?rnberg, Il Papa, Instructions pour dancer, Chigi, Pattricke/Lovelace, Lansdowne and Sloane manuscripts. In these 4 volumes alone there would be in depth analysis and detail reconstructions of about 350 dances-and not a period relevant text not explored and sampled.

The books are designed not only as ideal practical aids for dancer callers/teachers and musicians, but also as resources which enthusiasts might consult in response to the many dance-related questions that come up all the time on lists like this-and given the interconnections between dance across the 450 years between 1450 and 1900 (interconnections traced in these volumes) and given that the Australian dollar has recently plunged 15% against major currencies, you might want to consider the whole 10 volume set (for which we've devised a discount).

For anyone interested in dancing some of my reconstructions from less known sources  I am over in England (with instruments, dance books and friends) on a small tour this coming September, and recommend in particular the  workshop I'm offering in London on Wednesday 4th September 7-10 pm, OldFinsbury Town Hall, Rosebery Ave., Lon., EC1R4RP and the one I'm offering on Wednesday 11th September 2:30-5:30 pm, at Barrington Court, Ilminster, Somerset TA19 ONQ. For my full tour itinerary see http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/dance-events/upcoming . 

Regards,

John Gardiner-Garden
www.earthlydelights.com.au


From upelluri at gmail.com  Mon Aug 19 22:11:15 2013
From: upelluri at gmail.com (Aaron Macks)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:11:15 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] New dance sources?
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Sadly Santucci is only available, as far as I know, in facsimile form,
although with an excellent introduction by Barbara Sparti.  As a
second witness to a bunch of the fundamentals of late-period Italian
dance, it's got some interesting distinctive touches, such as
Gaillardes which stay on a single fot, without the mirror-image form
that seems to persistent in Caroso/Negri

GunDormr
-------------
Aaron Macks(aaronm at wiglaf.org)
http://www.wiglaf.org/~aaronm/
My sheep has seven gall bladders, that makes me the King of the Universe!


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Andrew Draskoy <pub at andrew.draskoy.net> wrote:
> Santucci's manuscript.  It's 1614, but very much in the Caroso/Negri
> tradition.  With a LOT more information on steps.
>
>
> On 19 August 2013 14:38, White,John <john.white at drexel.edu> wrote:
>
>> > From:  Erica Neely
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > I used to be fairly active in dancing some years ago, but I've been
>> completely
>> > out of the SCA for five years.  (Moved, new job, bought a house, etc.).
>> I'm
>> > getting involved again, but I'm curious as to what new and interesting
>> > sources might have appeared.  (The last hot discovery in my time was the
>> > Gresley manuscript dances.)
>> >
>> > Suggestions?  Salutations?  Recommendations I just run for the hills?
>> >
>> > In service,
>> >
>> > Catalana di Neri
>> > (Still Middle Kingdom, just east a bit)
>>
>> Well, I could mention my own work on the Pattricke/Lovelace/Church
>> manuscript
>> (a handwritten chapbook from perhaps 1649 containing both new and familiar
>> yet
>> different English Country Dances), viewable at
>> http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~white/dlovelace.html.
>>
>> There are (so far) three totally new ECD dances from it that we have music
>> for -
>> Lightly Love, a kidnapping progressive dance; Milking Pail, a standard 3
>> (or 4) couple
>> ECD with many heys; and Road to Westminster, a 4-couple standard ECD with
>> lots of
>> setting and even some turning.
>>
>>                 \\Dafydd Cyhoeddwr
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> To send mail to the entire list, be sure sca-dance at sca-dance.org is listed
>> in the To line of any response.
>>
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From del at babel.com.au  Tue Aug 20 03:55:05 2013
From: del at babel.com.au (Del)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:55:05 +1000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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On 17/07/13 07:44, Monica Hultin wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison Wisconsin.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater

Anyone who can't do a lavolta tassle lift to head height just ain't tryin'

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/408961_10150606282578050_446929181_n.jpg

(it's a facebook photo so I don't know how public it will be but I could 
see the video no troubles).

(is that Trahaearn in the video?)

Del


From david.a.learmonth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 20 06:11:04 2013
From: david.a.learmonth at gmail.com (David Learmonth)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:11:04 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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Hey Del, isn't she supposed to be supported on your leg?  Or is this photo
in the moment after you have withdrawn it?  Or is that only for a different
version of La Volta, and not the tassle lift?

(because otherwise, isn't the Lady doing all the work here, really?)  :P

Darius


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Del <del at babel.com.au> wrote:

> On 17/07/13 07:44, Monica Hultin wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison
> Wisconsin.
> >
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater
>
> Anyone who can't do a lavolta tassle lift to head height just ain't tryin'
>
>
> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/408961_10150606282578050_446929181_n.jpg
>
> (it's a facebook photo so I don't know how public it will be but I could
> see the video no troubles).
>
> (is that Trahaearn in the video?)
>
> Del
>
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From dpeters at panix.com  Tue Aug 20 09:29:12 2013
From: dpeters at panix.com (Deborah Peters)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:29:12 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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> Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison
> Wisconsin.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater

Finally got to watch the video--waitaminute, is that Trahearn?  What was
he doing in Madison?

Rufina/DP


From tmcd at panix.com  Tue Aug 20 10:00:41 2013
From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:00:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Deborah Peters <dpeters at panix.com> wrote:
>> Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison
>> Wisconsin.
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater
>
> Finally got to watch the video--waitaminute, is that Trahearn?
> What was he doing in Madison?

Um, La Volta?

Denyel (was that a trick question?) de Lyncoln
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

From dpeters at panix.com  Tue Aug 20 10:16:04 2013
From: dpeters at panix.com (Deborah Peters)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:16:04 -0400
Subject: [SCA-Dance]  La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Deborah Peters <dpeters at panix.com> wrote:
>>> Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison
>>> Wisconsin.
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater
>>
>> Finally got to watch the video--waitaminute, is that Trahearn?
>> What was he doing in Madison?
>
> Um, La Volta?
>
> Denyel (was that a trick question?) de Lyncoln

No, it wasn't a trick question, just morbid curiosity :->  (He wasn't
listed as Faculty, and he wouldn't have had to travel all the way to
Madison to study with MEMF's early dance teacher, who is from Seattle....)

Toodles--
Rufina/DP


From trahaearn at live.com  Tue Aug 20 13:14:29 2013
From: trahaearn at live.com (Peter Durham (Trahaearn ap Ieuan))
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:14:29 -0700
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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>>> Finally got to watch the video--waitaminute, is that Trahearn?
>>> What was he doing in Madison?
>> Um, La Volta?
> No, it wasn't a trick question, just morbid curiosity :->  (He wasn't
listed as Faculty, and he wouldn't 
> have had to travel all the way to Madison to study with MEMF's early dance
teacher, who is from Seattle....)

Yup, that's me! Anna Mansbridge of Seattle Early Dance was the MEMF dance
teacher. I'm one of her regular students; for Madison, I was her performance
partner and classroom shill.
- Trahaearn


From tmcd at panix.com  Tue Aug 20 15:08:57 2013
From: tmcd at panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:08:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Deborah Peters <dpeters at panix.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Deborah Peters <dpeters at panix.com> wrote:
>>>> Thought you might enjoy this, from the recent Festival in Madison
>>>> Wisconsin.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10100976935215906&set=vb.11514952&type=2&theater
>>>
>>> Finally got to watch the video--waitaminute, is that Trahearn?
>>> What was he doing in Madison?
>>
>> Um, La Volta?
>>
>> Denyel (was that a trick question?) de Lyncoln
>
> No, it wasn't a trick question, just morbid curiosity

I was just making a joke, a pun on "what was he doing".
It was along the lines of
     Customer: What's a fly doing in my soup?!
     Waiter: [peers at it]  The backstroke.

Dankyn de Lyncoln
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

From del at babel.com.au  Wed Aug 21 06:52:38 2013
From: del at babel.com.au (Del)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:52:38 +1000
Subject: [SCA-Dance] La Volta at the Madison Early Music Festival
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On 20/08/13 20:11, David Learmonth wrote:
> Hey Del, isn't she supposed to be supported on your leg?  Or is this
> photo in the moment after you have withdrawn it?  Or is that only for a
> different version of La Volta, and not the tassle lift?

Yes, she was certainly supported on my leg for the first part of the 
lift but wasn't after she got moving upwards.  I dropped my leg back 
down for balance after she was high enough.  Basically to get someone up 
that high you need a combination of the leg lift and a lift from the 
waist & hips.  Actually I'm reasonably happy with my posture and balance 
at the point of the lift shown in the photo, I have a background of 
having done high lifts doing swing/jitterbug in my younger days and I 
sometimes had problems with posture back then and had to work on it a 
fair bit.  Getting a partner up to that height without having correct 
balance isn't going to happen.  However flinging a partner up to a 
height somewhat over my head height isn't anything new to me.

> (because otherwise, isn't the Lady doing all the work here, really?)  :P

No, trust me, she's not.  :)

Disclaimer -- Irina / Alliette is a little bigger than Lynnette but not 
a whole lot bigger.  It still took a fair bit of timing and balance to 
get the lift right, we'd practised for an hour or so before hand to get 
the timing and height and distance correct, the latter of which I had to 
judge by eye on the floor.

The back story to the photo is that every year at Canty Faire there is a 
tassel kick competition which has actually become popular especially 
amongst the younger gentlemen.  Points (subjectively) are awarded for 
style, grace, correct galliard technique, steps, turns, etc, with bonus 
points awarded for tassel height.  Most contestants have the tassel at 
or around knee height.  When Alliette arrived on the floor she asked for 
the tassel to be raised to over her head height, to the somewhat 
amazement of the spectators.  She then galliarded in and as she 
approached the tassel I stepped in and picked her up in a volta 
turn/lift continuing upwards to have her kick the tassel at a height she 
couldn't otherwise have reached.  Nobody knew that was going to happen 
except the two of us so it produced a fair amount of amusement.  It 
wasn't allowed in the competition of course but we didn't do it for that.

There is of course no such thing as a "tassel lift" in Lavolta, that is 
entirely my invention.  The tassel kick dance comes from Negri who 
doesn't mention anything like a lavolta.

Del


From lanhamlaw at att.net  Sun Aug 25 04:12:02 2013
From: lanhamlaw at att.net (Stephen Kiefert)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 01:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SCA-Dance] Stefan and Evelynne's wedding
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It has been a while since we saw some of you and handed out the save 
the date notes and/or invitations so here is the text of the actual invitation as a followup, minus the 
fancy font. 
You are all still invited.? We want everyone to feel welcome but realize many of you live far away.? It will be like a weekend camping event.? At this point we need to 
get a better idea of how many are coming for food ordering so we need to
 hear from those coming (or probably or possibly coming) by Labor Day.? 
You can reply on the Web site, by email, by mail, or by phone.? The Cook is getting nervous and we want to have enough food. 

See the website mywedding.com/ritajaneandstephen for more info

Stefan and Evelynne


??
 ?You are cordially invited to the wedding of 

Rita?? Jane?? Leasure
Evelynne Merrymet

?? ?and

Stephen?? Herbert?? Kiefert
Stefan of Cambion

?? ?Thursday October 3rd thru Sunday October 6th, 2013 
?? ?Viking engagement ceremony Friday October 4th 3 PM 
??
 ?Pagan wedding ceremony will be Saturday October 5th 3 PM
?? ?
at

?? ?Common Ground Community
?? ? Lexington, Virginia

?? ?This will be a weekend mostly camping event, but there are lots of hotels and B&Bs in town.

Food: 
??
 ?Breakfasts and main dish for evening meals, both meat and vegetarian 
will be provided.? Lunch will be soup and sandwich fixings.? Please 
bring pot luck side dishes eveningsActivities: 
?? ?There will be 
bachelor and bachelorette parties Friday night.? There will be an open 
bar with the Bride?s Cordials and a keg of local beer each evening.? 
Bring your own brews to add to that.? The bar will be tended or closed.?
 We want to be kid friendly.

Music: 
?? ?There will be jam 
sessions all weekend.? We have a large fire circle and a pavilion for
 dancing with a stage.? Both will accommodate over a hundred folks.? 
Bring your instruments, your stories and poems and songs for sharing.? 
Much of the dancing will be Renaissance, we will teach. ?


Volunteers: 
?? ?Volunteers will be sought and appreciated throughout the weekend.

?? ?RSVP
??
 ?The cook would like to know how many we will be feeding and when.? 
Please let us know that you are coming, with how many others, and 
approximate time of arrival. You can do that on the Web site, by email, 
by mail, or by phone.

?? ?More Information
?? ?We have a web 
site which will be updated periodically.? Directions, gift lists, 
schedules, photos, accommodations lists, volunteer opportunities, etc., 
will all appear with time.? Contact us at (540) 463-4042 or email lanhamlaw at att.net 

mywedding.com/ritajaneandstephen