<div dir="ltr">Thanks, all! The new page is live on the BMDL site. Thank you to Arianna and Aleric for your work to keep this alive and functional, despite Google!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 11:03 AM Ruth Morrisson via Sca-bmdl <<a href="mailto:sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Greetings from Myfanwy!<div>Good to know that things are fixed.  Ditto to what Hara said about Arianna and Alaric.</div><div>Me, though, I’m not remotely surprised at Google doing something this slimy.  Because these days, when I’m looking stuff up (say, the number from a spam call I got) it’s more like throwing a pot of spaghetti on the wall to see what sticks.  I get hits for sites that not only DON’T have the information, I get hits that get me “500 | Server Error” or “this might be a fraudulent site” pages (when they shouldn’t be showing me the links at ALL).  Oh, and there was the one that was not only information about the phone numbers?  It was a MANGA PORN site!  I keep reporting this sh*t and nothing happens (well they now have a warning for the manga porn one, but they STILL show it on the first 10 hits sometimes….  NOT GOOD ENOUGH.  Oh, and Google Maps is a joke.  Got me lost in Indiana in the parking lot for a (closed) hotel a couple of weeks ago.  And when we were driving to and from central NYS last weekend (burial service for Alastar’s two brothers’ ashes) every time we hit a traffic circle it would tell us what exit to go out — AS WE WERE ALREADY DOING SO….</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 13, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Sharon Booth <<a href="mailto:sbooth@sbooth.net" target="_blank">sbooth@sbooth.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
  
    
  
  <div><p>It worked for me with no login prompts. Thanks to both you and
      Alaric for the extra effort.</p><p>Hara Kikumatsu<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 10/13/2021 7:52 PM, Karen Kasper
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi all.<br>
        <br>
        Master Alaric and I looked at the website this evening and we
        think we fixed it. If you have a moment, please test the link
        again and let me know if you can see it without having to log
        in to Gmail.
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        </div>
        <div><a href="https://sites.google.com/view/debatable-lands-dark-pages/Dark-Pages" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/view/debatable-lands-dark-pages/Dark-Pages</a><br>
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        <div>Arianna</div>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:19
          PM Monica Cellio <<a href="mailto:cellio@pobox.com" target="_blank">cellio@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Oh, I see.  Yeah, that makes sense -- some of
            those entries probably predate this being online.  Good luck
            with the private hosting!  Sorry Google is being such a
            pain. :-(
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Monica</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
          </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at
              6:56 PM Karen Kasper <<a href="mailto:ariannawyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">ariannawyn@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">We are not allowed to host documents with
                people's personal information on an official SCA website
                unless we get written permission from everyone on the
                list. Some of the people on our list may not be easily
                available any more, not to mention that there are over
                300 of them. So they have to be hosted privately.
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Arianna </div>
              </div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 13, 2021
                  at 6:21 PM Monica Cellio <<a href="mailto:cellio@pobox.com" target="_blank">cellio@pobox.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Why not host it on the barony site? 
                    Can the webmaster set up an account for you so that
                    you can post updates?
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Monica</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 13,
                      2021 at 5:58 PM Karen Kasper <<a href="mailto:ariannawyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">ariannawyn@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Yes, that's the old site. The Dark
                        Pages there is outdated, though you can still
                        use it for now.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Arianna</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct
                          13, 2021 at 5:54 PM Ronnie Kummer <<a href="mailto:bataarsogdo@hotmail.com" target="_blank">bataarsogdo@hotmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                              This is were it sent me.</div>
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                              <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/ariannaofwynthrope/Dark-Pages" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/ariannaofwynthrope/Dark-Pages</a><br>
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                              Bataar</div>
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                              Get <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" target="_blank">Outlook
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                            <div id="gmail-m_-8276685932433304966gmail-m_-2964929180781684939gmail-m_-1578853118367795869gmail-m_-7158233018701192872gmail-m_-2861894077004369398gmail-m_-6960979857598160135divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Sca-bmdl
                                <sca-bmdl-bounces+bataarsogdo=<a href="mailto:hotmail.com@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">hotmail.com@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>>
                                on behalf of Karen Kasper <<a href="mailto:ariannawyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">ariannawyn@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 13, 2021
                                3:25:18 PM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> Dist List BMDL <<a href="mailto:sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SCA-BMDL] New URL
                                for the Dark Pages</font>
                              <div> </div>
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                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">Ugh. I couldn't find any
                                settings to let people access it without
                                logging in.
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>The link on the Barony website is
                                  to the old URL, which I think is
                                  redirecting to the new one.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>If someone else has more experience
                                  with the new Google Sites (which I've
                                  been resisting until they forced me by
                                  making the old site uneditable),
                                  assistance or advice would be
                                  appreciated.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  If this can't be resolved, I may just
                                  set up a Wordpress site. Sigh.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Arianna </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at
                                  2:51 PM Sharon Booth <<a href="mailto:sbooth@sbooth.net" target="_blank">sbooth@sbooth.net</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div><p>If you navigate there from the
                                      barony site, to the dark pages
                                      intro page from the menu, and
                                      click on the dark pages link it
                                      will open without a password.
                                      However, if you use the link you
                                      provided in the e-mail, you have
                                      to enter a google user id and then
                                      login.</p><p>Hara Kikumatsu<br>
                                    </p><p><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <div>On 10/13/2021 1:51 PM, Karen
                                      Kasper wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Well that stinks. I
                                        set it to viewable by anyone
                                        with the link. I'll look into
                                        whether there's anything else I
                                        can do.
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Arianna</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>
                                        <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 13,
                                          2021 at 1:07 PM Sharon Booth
                                          <<a href="mailto:sbooth@sbooth.net" target="_blank">sbooth@sbooth.net</a>>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                        <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div><p>And you have to enter a
                                              google password to see
                                              that page. <br>
                                            </p><p>Hara Kikumatsu<br>
                                            </p>
                                            <div>On 10/13/2021 1:05 PM,
                                              Karen Kasper wrote:<br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">Salve
                                                Accolens!
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>The Dark Pages have
                                                  moved! Google has
                                                  kidnapped them and
                                                  moved them to a new
                                                  address. They can now
                                                  be found at the URL
                                                  below:</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://sites.google.com/view/debatable-lands-dark-pages/Dark-Pages" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/view/debatable-lands-dark-pages/Dark-Pages</a></div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>If you have any
                                                  updates to the Dark
                                                  Pages, please send me
                                                  a DM.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Arianna  </div>
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