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Nope, no wreaths for the general populace on clothing. Only the Baron and Baroness should wear the full arms including the wreath. Also the Herald on a tabard during court or when he/she is acting as the "voice" of the Baron and Baroness. <BR>
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The populace badge is the the arms without the wreath, and we also have a populace badge that anyone can wear that is simply a black comet, preferably the Bayeux Tapestry Comet, but that's a matter of personal preference, really.<BR><BR>> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:16:40 -0700<BR>> From: pmb_pa@yahoo.com<BR>> To: sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<BR>> Subject: Re: [SCA-BMDL] BMDL Patterns<BR>> <BR>> I replied off list asking for more info, so I know<BR>> which pattern to give her. But I have a question<BR>> regarding what can be put on garb for members of the<BR>> barony. Should it include the wreath or not? My gut<BR>> says it shouldn't. This drives what the available<BR>> patterns are (I have at least 10 versions of this in<BR>> various sizes, shapes, etc.)<BR>> <BR>> Cassandra<BR>> --- myfanwy@nauticom.net wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Greetings from Myfanwy!<BR>> > Hrefna's correct about the arms vs. the populace<BR>> > badge. However, it isn't<BR>> > clear whether Elss needs to know what stuff looks<BR>> > like, or have an actual<BR>> > chart/design to work from.<BR>> > I know that Cassandra charted the comet part awhile<BR>> > back to do order<BR>> > badges in cross stitch. I'm not sure where mine is<BR>> > at the moment, but I'm<BR>> > pretty sure that Cassandra or someone will have a<BR>> > copy and can get you<BR>> > one.<BR>> > Lady Myfanwy ferch Rhiannon<BR>> > Ruth Morrisson<BR>> > myfanwy@nauticom.net<BR>> > <BR>> > > Hi Elss,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > If the banner is for your own personal use, you<BR>> > want to use what is called<BR>> > > the populace badge, which is a white comet with<BR>> > its head on your left<BR>> > > inside of a yellow block border on a black<BR>> > background. In heraldic<BR>> > > speech, the badge is "Sable, a comet fesswise<BR>> > argent, a bordure embattled<BR>> > > Or."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > If you are making the banner for the barony to use<BR>> > or for the baron or<BR>> > > baroness, then you want to use the group's arms. <BR>> > There is a picture in<BR>> > > the upper left corner of this web page:<BR>> > http://debatablelands.org/.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Visiually, the difference between the two is the<BR>> > laurel wreath but the<BR>> > > meaning is much more. The badge says "I belong to<BR>> > or am a member of the<BR>> > > Barony-Marche". The arms declare "I am the<BR>> > Barony-Marche" or "I am the<BR>> > > baroness\baron of the Debatable Lands."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Your banner can be any shape: round, square,<BR>> > rectangular, or heater (i.e.<BR>> > > shield shaped.) Just make the border fit the<BR>> > shape of the banner.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Raven<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------<BR>> > > And this above all to thine own self be true.<BR>> > > - Shakespeare,<BR>> > "Hamlet"<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Elss_of_Augsburg<BR>> > <elss_of_augsburg@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > >> From: Elss_of_Augsburg<BR>> > <elss_of_augsburg@yahoo.com><BR>> > >> Subject: [SCA-BMDL] BMDL Patterns<BR>> > >> To: "BMDL SCA" <sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu><BR>> > >> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:14 AM<BR>> > >> Greetings!<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Does any good gentile out there have a pattern<BR>> > for the BMDL<BR>> > >> device (banner / logo / whatchamacallit)? I am<BR>> > looking for<BR>> > >> needlepoint or embroidery so I can add to my<BR>> > garb, and I am<BR>> > >> also looking for something large so I can make a<BR>> > banner.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> I would also be very glad of any advice or<BR>> > assistance from<BR>> > >> anyone with experience in these endeavors, so<BR>> > that I use<BR>> > >> durable materials and colors that don't fade, and<BR>> > >> don't make more work for myself than necessary.<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> My thanks to all in advance --<BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Elss of<BR>> > >><BR>> ><BR>> Augsburg_______________________________________________<BR>> > >> Sca-bmdl mailing list<BR>> > >> Sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<BR>> > >><BR>> ><BR>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-bmdl<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > _______________________________________________<BR>> > > Sca-bmdl mailing list<BR>> > > Sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-bmdl<BR>> > ><BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Sca-bmdl mailing list<BR>> > Sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<BR>> ><BR>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-bmdl<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Sca-bmdl mailing list<BR>> Sca-bmdl@lists.andrew.cmu.edu<BR>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/sca-bmdl<BR><BR><br /><hr />Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. <a href='http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008' target='_new'>IM on your terms.</a></body>
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