[SCA-AE] lawsuit and changes
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hoteljb at aim.com
Mon Feb 6 16:51:15 EST 2012
I personally don't see a problem with background checks for anyone working with children.
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Tim Button <tigranes at nep.net> wrote:
>Greetings from Tigranes,
>So what you seem to be saying, Lord Eirik, in a very courteous and eloquent
>manner (and I paraphrase heavily) is "Shut up and drink the Kool-aid." <BG>
>No, really, I do understand your point, but there is much room, I think, for
>positive debate, and one is not necessarily nay-saying just because an
>alternate viewpoint is expressed.
>My message was not so much one of nay-saying as of encouraging all to use
>this crisis as the impetus for make a change I believe would be vastly
>beneficial to all (except perhaps to those who draw a salary from
>Corporate). I do not advocate withholding funds from Corporate, as those
>funds belong to the Corporation. It's why every check is made out to SCA,
>Inc. (Name of Group). It is their money: we have allowed them to claim it
>as theirs all these years.
>But how would this lawsuit have played out differently if there was no
>national corporation, and the litigation could go no further than the local
>group in which the crimes occurred? The rest of the independent local
>groups could go on with business as usual and the entire "culture" of the
>hobby would not be threatened. The local group in question would probably
>be forced to disband, but a new local group could easily be formed to take
>its place. It is not so rare for this type of thing to take place within
>other living history groups (not for this particular criminal activity) .
>I suspect that the response to this crisis by the SCA will be the same as
>its responses of past crises: more rules, more paperwork, more burden on
>local *voluntary* officers while justifying the existence of the paid
>corporate staff. Of course, most of that has already happened in response to
>the root occurrence: the background checks, rules for youth activities,
>etc. I just think that a situation like this might shake up enough people
>that a look into structural decentralization sound like a good idea.
>Baron Tigranes of Bezabde
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rob Baldassano (Eirik)" <odlahorde at yahoo.com>
>In my humble opinion.
>I believe that the Board of Directors has performed their duties, and made
>extremely difficult decisions that any of us would find to be daunting at
>best. I applaud our legal council and the BoD for making the best decision
>out of a huge slew of potentially bad decisions that were probably on the
>table. Because of the nature of the background of the law suit, some of
>those possible decisions may never be ableto become public. Why? For the
>safety and well being of the victims in the heinous crime that was
>After all, would you want your children dragged into court, their tender
>years ripped apart and examined on the stand? Their innocence yanked
>away from them so that they can never know the beauty of that innocence when
>they look back on their youth?
>>From a corporate stand point... It is very common for corporations to pull
>>funds from every aspect of their business in order to resolve legal issues.
>>It is the most fair option available to a corporation, and thus the SCA
>>followed suit in this standard and acceptable practice.
>So let us, the members of this Society stand united and assist each other,
>as we do in any time of need. We as members are not being asked to dip into
>our own pockets, but rather the coffers of our local groups, to help out
>"big brother" (Corpora) with resolving the matter that came up in another
>local group. Last year, during the winter storms, and flooding that struck
>many in the SCA, other members came forward with donations of food,
>clothing, temporary shelter, and other means to assist with the well being
>of other SCA members. This is no different.
>So for the neigh sayers, and those that don't feel that Corpora should be
>assisted... Instead look at your friends, your work mates, your lovers and
>children. Would you turn them away in a time of need? Would you tell them
>"This is your mess, you deal with it?" If you would do this. If you would
>turn a blind eye to a friend in need, then perhaps, just perhaps you need to
>look at the dark spot on your soul and help yourself first. I'm sorry if
>this sounds harsh, but the darkness can take over ones soul and turn them
>bitter, where as a helping hand, a kind word, a friendly smile, can turn the
>darkness to light, and lift your spirits to the greatest heights of mankind.
>That is what I found in the SCA when I joined 23 years ago. It is my heart
>felt hope that the members of the SCA feel the same way.
>In my humble opinion, those who live by the Knightly virtues, those pillars
>of our community, should look to the community as part of
>themselves, and help out in any way possible.
>--Rob / Eiric
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