[SCA-AE] NMS--wider consideration

[Chakalis, Joseph]

Depends. In a relatively small organization the cost per person to
support the organization does tend to be disproportionately large. I
think that is why the corporate office is trying to spread that cost
around via the NMS, though I would not want to put words in their
mouths. (Or caviar either, for that matter...) 

I ran a very small non-profit entity (a users group in a now dead
industry) and we did not fund office overhead or insurance. Even so, the
cost per member was higher than what I send to the SCA every year.
Economy of scale. But, I can understand you might be disgruntled if the
only thing of value to you is the insurance certificate. If you don't
see value in Tournaments Illuminated, incorporation fees to establish
the holding company which allows the local groups to exist and operate,
providing in-person contact opportunities for membership and the BoD,
etc. then the extra $25 per year certainly would seem a burden.

And no, I don't think that the organization always makes the wisest
financial decisions. But I do think that for a group comprised mostly of
volunteers it does a pretty good job.

Saleem


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So you think it's reasonable for the supporting structure to cost 2.5
times the cost of the thing it supports?

-Joel

On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 12:40 -0500, Chakalis, Joseph wrote:
> When you see a line item in the budget for $X for insurance that is
only
> the policy cost. There also is the supporting structure required to
have
> an organization that CAN buy insurance. So there is office, staff, and
> all the other overhead associated with an incorporated entity. While
> some services can be donated and that is always appreciated there is
> also often the need to hire professional, outside service providers. I
> presume this would also be the case with the SCA, Inc. I have not
looked
> at the organization's budget in a long time, so those are very loose
> generalities. Having looked at the budget in the past, though, the
only
> really extravagant item usually in there is the office rental because
it
> is in a high rent area.
> Saleem
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> I have a very different problem with this.  The *only* thing the
> Corporate SCA provides for our events is insurance coverage for damage
> to the hall, and liability insurance for group officers.  Every
account
> I've ever heard of the cost of this puts it at or below $10 per member
> per year.  Every year I send them 350% of that.  What the heck are
they
> doing with the money, and why in God's name should we want to give
them
> more of it?
> 
> -Joel/Maghnus
> 
> 
>
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