[SCA-AE] Limiting Groups to Three Events per Year?
F. Page Steinhardt
sunshadow at twcny.rr.com
Sun Jan 25 20:23:13 EST 2009
I am suggesting this as a remedy for avoiding the current scheduling
issues that have been brought into sharp focus by several issues
involving scheduling and rescheduling events: there are currently
cascade effects from the rescheduling of several events to fix calendar
conflicts, and there are groups that are trying to get just one event in
on this calendar year, and finding an open weekend is frustratingly
It is hard to find event space for winter events, especially fighting
events. Figure approximately half of the year is available for outdoor
events. That is 26 weekends. There are approximately 32 groups in
AEthelmearc. If each group has 3 events per year that breaks down to
about 19 1/2 events per year per region. Add in the Kingdom events which
nobody should conflict with, and that brings you up to 24 or 25
weekends, knock out the holidays which are not good for event
attendance, now you are up to 28 weekends. Figure August is prettty much
eaten by Pennsic, now you are at 32. That leaves winter weather. Many
groups are already scheduling prime calendar real estate at least a year
out, some groups are having 4 or 5 events some years. There are also
issues with events that may be in different regions, but the same "Play
area", for instance, here in Delftwood we would not dream of conflicting
with Thescorre, even though they are in a different region so, you can
see it gets complicated.
I realize my "Draft pick" system is imperfect, and I'm fairly sure that
ultimately the kingdom will never go for a 3 event limit, and probably
the "draft pick" system has about a snowball's chance, but I'm tossing
up an idea, and if the suggestion leads to polite disourse that improves
the situation for the groups that are having a hard time getting
something on the calendar, then the question will have ultimately been
worth the time.
Lady Giovanna DaNapoli wrote:
> I am curious as to why there is a need to limit how many events a group
> has per year? Yes some events may conflict with others, but I think that
> saying a group can only have a certain number of events a year, will
> still cause an issue with attendance.
> Whether an event is in January, or June, if it's more than 2 hours away,
> my family does not go. It doesn't matter what group is sponsoring the
> event, gas prices are unstable, and the current economy doesn't fair any
> better, what will limiting groups as to the number of events they have
> Is this being suggested as a new Kingdom Policy, or an SCA Policy? Also,
> if you limit the number of events a group can have, then that means that
> no one will try or can try to hold new events for a group.
> There has always been one event conflicting with another, and it's
> always been up us, the populous, to decide which we want to attend, for
> what ever reason. Limiting us on which group events we want to attend,
> is taking away our right to choose what we want to do.
> This is my observations and opinions, and I would like to know why
> limits are being brought up.
> As Always,
> Lady Giovanna DaNapoli
> Warranted MoL-at-Large
> Casa Sopra La Argenteo Corvi
> --- On Sun, 1/25/09, F. Page Steinhardt <sunshadow at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> From: F. Page Steinhardt <sunshadow at twcny.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [SCA-AE] Limiting Groups to Three Events per Year?
> To: discussion at aethelmearc.org
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 4:39 PM
> The one thing I didn't put into the draft pick suggestion (thank you
> for the reminder) is that rotating kingdom events would not count
> against the draft. (An added incentive for the larger groups that have
> sufficient peoplepower available to bid on kingdom events if they want
> to add above quota.
> If you had been involved in some of the event scheduling discussions I
> have been in on lately, first trying to schedule a metals symposium
> as a
> stand-alone event (IMPOSSIBLE with the current level of calendar
> and the fact that some events are already being scheduled over a year
> out) and then trying to find events that would be willing to be host
> events for a metal symposium, you would see that there are not enough
> weekends in the year that are not already either taken, or reserved for
> Kingdom events.
> The advantage of a draft system, as I stated earlier, would be that
> every group would be able to schedule something before some of the more
> active groups had the calendar filled.
> in service,
> Solveig Throndardottir wrote:
> > Noble Cousins!
> > Greetings from Solveig! While I like the basic idea between the
> > round draft pick approach, I do think that limiting things to three
> > events per group per year is going too far. This makes autocrating
> > opportunities excessively scarce for large groups. Rather, maybe
> > group should get one major event and one minor event per reign and
> > some number of additional events based on population size. Further,
> > traveling kingdom events should not count against the local group
> > event limit. Local groups might even "buy" an event slot from an
> > adjacent group in a manner similar to the "event sharing" already
> > noted. This is all just an exploration of the basic idea.
> > Your Humble Servant
> > Solveig Throndardottir
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