[SCA-AE] Assignment v. Commission of scrolls

[Yvianne]

This is how it's been for as long as I can remember....
as Antoinette stated, the Signet does not "upgrade" or replace scrolls. Plus, according to 
current policy all kingdom award scrolls must go through Signet. Given those two facts 
there is no way, even through private commission, to receive a duplicate award scroll.

Since Antoinette mentions privately commissioning replacements I don't know if policy is 
changing to allow *award scrolls* to be created outside of the purview Signet office, but 
in the past it has been possible for folks to have both an award scroll given from the 
heart and hands of the scribes ... and have a stunning piece to commemorate a recognition. 
Separate kingdom award scrolls from private commissions entirely.

To differentiate between a kingdom assignment and commissioned piece, privately arranged 
works are not referred to as scrolls but "commemorative pieces". In the past, to satisfy 
policy they have been specifically requested not to be an imitation of an award scroll. 
The biggest differences usually being that there are no signatures on it and it is worded 
so that it does not give the impression that the King and Queen asked for the document to 
be made to accompany a recognition. (traditional scroll wording: We, _ &_, King and Queen 
of AEthelmearc create _ a member of Our Order of the Keystone. Done by Our Hand ...  While 
a commemorative piece may be worded thusly: Before the assembled witnesses _ &_, King and 
Queen of AEthelmearc did bestow upon _ all rights and privileges of a Companion of the 
Keystone) Otherwise they can look like award scrolls ... or not :-)

The required elements that scribes have to include when making award scrolls cease to 
exist with commemorative pieces. This means they can be more like period pieces or be 
based on something completely different if that's what the patron wants. (One example is 
the piece Malcolm did showing his Royal lineage and claim to the Throne. As an award 
scroll this piece would have been quite different. It is not done in a traditional, easily 
framed size and does not contain all of the necessary information that would be required 
on an award scroll ... but it is the most amazing scribal endeavor I have seen by a modern 
scribe)

Commemorative pieces work well for everyone concerned.... the  scribe of the original 
award scroll (because their piece is given the respect their labors deserve), the 
recipient (because they have their award scroll and a commissioned piece to remember the 
occasion) and the scribe who receives the commission (the opportunity to work outside the 
normal constraints of scroll production and being paid for their time and materials)

Just my 2 cents

Yvianne



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "m.allen" <delacroi29 at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at aethelmearc.org>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: [SCA-AE] Assignment v. Commission of scrolls


> Interesting thread, great for discussion, hence the name of this
> list : )
>
> Assignments occur through the Signet office
> Commissions are private arrangements between 2 people which does
> not include the Signet's office.
>
> Due to the fact that our Kingdom is *blessed* with an enormous
> amount of talented scribes we have the luxury of "gifting" each
> award recipient with a momento - a scroll. The scroll does not
> make the award legitimate or legal, the Royals and the Court
> reports take care of that end.
> My point is- no one _has to_ receive a scroll but in Aethelmearc
> we LOVE C&I and we love giving it away to award recipients.
>
> The Signet's office assigns scrolls to be created, each one a
> unique and original work of art from the hand of a scribe who
> has graciously donated their skill, time and materials to
> enhance the award recipient's day : )it is a gift from their
> heart, please remember this and treat it as such.
>
> The Signet's office will not *upgrade* scrolls or replace
> scrolls
> that have been damaged after receipt. Setting a precedence such
> as this would be a runaway train wreck. It also could be
> perceived as insulting to a scribe who did their best work.
>
> For those who wish something different other than what they have
> been gifted, feel free to commission an artist to create a
> replacement. I would suggest that this be handled just as any
> mundane commission would be handled, in writing-
> Service: What will be created
> Due date: When will the piece be completed
> Materials: Who will pay for this
> Payment: How much money or monetary value in a skill trade will
> be involved AND when is payment due
>
> Please understand that it is not the responsibility of the
> Signet's office to negotiate issues around commissions if
> the plan has gone south.
>
> If anyone has any questions around this, please contact me,
>
> Antoinette
> Kingdom Signet
>
>
>
> "Be the change you want to see in the world."
> -Gandhi
>
>
>
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