[SCA-AE] Re: bardic discussion continued

[L.J. Rodriguez]

 small comments:

BRION: tell us how to host a good bardic circle!!  :)


now, on to labeling bards. when i said cheap and easy to make and suggested
a sock, i should have been more specific. i meant FREE. i don't really think
that anyone should have to BUY something to indicate that they are a bard,
or if it would be something that might need to be bought, it should be easy
easy easy to find. like a sock. i don't want to have to buy a big honkin
thingy (that i might think is ugly) to wear to let people know i want to
sing. but hanging a piece of cloth on me? that's a little simpler. i don't
usually have anywhere to pin pins anyway (on my big behind maybe?) and i'd
loose a pin. i KNOW i would, because i can't find any of my award
medallions. :)  (please don't anyone feel like they have to fix that for me
- i don't need more things to lose in my house, thanks :)

maybe a bard cord, like a hoard cord?

rufina, who got recognized at work yesterday because of her pennsic shirt,
and then when i mentioned the mouse, their eyes got real BIG...."i knew you
looked familiar!!"  *sigh*  ;)









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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:47:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: Thomas Gressman < welshborderer at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [SCA-AE] Re: bardic discussion continued
> To: discussion at aethelmearc.org
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> <chuckle>
>
> For those of us who got their start in SF filking this
> is almost reminiscent of the old "dandelion
> conspiracy". (I'll leave y'all to look that one up :)
> )
>
> "Labeling the bards"... Hmmm... might have some merit.
> I have an old brass harp badge that I wear on the
> turned up side of my hat, that is actually a Civil War
> "Irish Brigade" badge. Those might be a bit more
> classy than a sock pinned to my behind.
>
> Or, some catalogs have small pins in the shape of a
> treble cleff, or joined eight notes, or somesuch.
> (being a bard, i wonder if that should be a "trouble
> cleff"?) Or perhaps some other type of badge or token.
> Personally, I like the "brigade" badge, but the harp
> is far too common an emblem for it to be easily
> recognized.
>
> This requires a bit more thought and perhaps a
> "dandelion conspiracy" of our own.
>
> Morgan
>
> --- "L.J. Rodriguez" <rufinasca at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> >  i see a couple/few themes here.
> > 1) bards don't know where and when they *can/should*
> > sing/perform
> > 2) people don't have a way of recognizing bards who
> > want to perform
> > 3) new (or old) (or some but not all) bards are shy
> > about performing (which
> > could have something to do with 1.
> > 4) some people like to sing with other people, some
> > would like to see group
> > sings. (rufina jumps up and down waving arm yelling
> > "me! me!!")
> >
> > possible solutions:
> >
> > 1) label the bards. be outright about it. loud and
> > clear - pun intended. :)
> > when i first joined the sca mumble-mumble years ago
> > i met some fine young
> > lads from Atlantia who had formed a society called
> > the militant society of
> > bards. this society wore baldrics of the most
> > OBNOXIOUS motley you've ever
> > seen. hurt the eyes. but you dang sure KNEW who the
> > bards were and who to
> > drag over to your corner for a song or whatever. we
> > need not form a group
> > here to do that, but maybe some sort of thing that
> > bards could wear to be
> > recognized? autocrats who want to foster bards could
> > even offer them at
> > troll as encouragement. AND if you are a bard who
> > has a cold or something
> > and doesn't feel like performing, you could *not*
> > wear yours. would have to
> > be something easy and cheap that anyone could make,
> > like a sock pinned to
> > your behind (not my recommendation, just an example)
> > 2) declare some events to be bard friendly ahead of
> > time. maybe give people
> > who want to encourage bards some sort of tokens to
> > give to bards who
> > perform, or have people who want to hear bardic
> > performance wear some sort
> > of thingie - the whole sock thing again...
> > 3) designate a spot for bardic gathering at an
> > event. a place where people
> > can sit and talk and perform - a corner of the hall
> > with a circle of chairs
> > maybe. altho i'm one of those who thinks a fire and
> > lateness and dark
> > contribute to the whole thing and it's hard to
> > replicate that during the day
> > ;)
> > 4) declare ahead of time that there will be a sing
> > at feast. pick ONE song
> > and have someone (bard) lead it - maybe sing the
> > chorus once or twice
> > through - and try to get everyone to sing along.
> > only one song. no need to
> > annoy the people who hate bardic stuff. pass the
> > words out on half sheets of
> > paper to the hall right before the sing. yeah, it's
> > contrived and annoying,
> > but it might shake things up a bit. heck, we could
> > pick ONE song per reign
> > and do it at feasts all over the kingdom and by
> > pennsic, by golly, everyone
> > will know it! and not need WORDS for the opening
> > ceremonies - and if
> > EVERYBODY is singing, the song won't get lost along
> > the line.  i suggest we
> > start with scarlet! :)
> >
> > ALL of the 'solutions' i've mentioned are designed
> > only as temporary things
> > - things to change the tone and atmosphere. maybe
> > we've not had a lot of
> > bardic successes because everybody was scared to
> > try. i think the whole
> > shyness issue would take care of itself if the whole
> > climate evolved into
> > being more bard friendly. i might be more willing to
> > try if i knew i wasn't
> > going to be shot down or have someone look down
> > their nose at me because i'm
> > just not good enough.
> >
> > rufina
> >
> >
> > "L.J. Rodriguez" <rufinasca at gmail.com> writes:
> > > >bardic:
> > > >in a nutshell, i've never felt that bardic stuff
> > was very welcome in
> > > >feasthalls in AEthelmearc. personally, i don't
> > feel comfortable walking
> > > >around to tables singing for people - i would
> > feel like i was being a
> > > pest
> > > >and that people were only allowing me to sing to
> > be nice to me.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can take a hint from the brazilian meat
> > fest place... have
> > > little tokens on the table that have a green side
> > and red side.
> > > At the restaurant, green up means keep the meat
> > flowing.... red side
> > > up means, I'm taking a pause from gorging right
> > now.
> > >
> > > --
> > > flip
> > > Just on the border of your waking mind, There lies
> > - Another time,
> > > Where darkness & light - are one. And as you tread
> > the halls of sanity,
> > > You feel so glad to be, Unable to go beyond.  ELO
> > - Twilight Prologue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sing, Valentin, sing!  That way I will have more
> > cover for my debatable
> > > efforts :-)
> > >
> > > Kazi
> > >
> > >
> > > Kazi,
> > >
> > > I will sing for you anytime, but I'd RATHER sing
> > WITH you!
> > >
> > > I love, more than anything else, singing with a
> > group.  The bigger, the
> > > better, even when not all the voices are "trained"
> > or "good".  I like
> > > different styles of voice.  I like clear ones, and
> > fuzzy ones, rich ones
> > > and soft ones...
> > >
> > > Anyone who would like some advice on breath
> > control, supporting tone, or
> > > some exercises to practice, please feel free to
> > come right up to me at
> > > any event and ask.  The things I teach are almost
> > easier to teach
> > > one-on-one in little 5-10 minute lessons.  Can be
> > done right in the
> > > middle of the hall, most of the time.
> > >
> > > I'd be happy to do classes again, but the last 3 I
> > offered were not
> > > attended at all.  It's hard to prepare a class, go
> > to the event, and sit
> > > alone in the room for an hour thinking "Was it
> > something I said?"
> > >
> > > -Caryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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