[SCA-AE] crown tourney requirements

[timothy lawrence]

Lord Stephen,

There is also at least a site fee for Crown Tourney that partcipants must 
pay  to attend Crown which will go to the local group and beyond this event 
site fees are charged to attend most other events.
Is your next argument going to be we can't charge participants to attend 
events because that's the next extension of your failure or unwillingness to 
differentiate between Donations ( which things people give without expecting 
something in return) and Fees that are rendered in return for some service 
(such as admission to an event, a seat at feast, or for processing heraldic 
submissions)?
As has been stated already the requirement for Crown Tourney participants is 
neither original to this coming Crown nor is it anything that the Society 
Administrata see as being in violation of the Corpora they serve and 
administer.

Kyriell

>Subject: RE: [SCA-AE] crown tourney requirements
>Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:34:29 -0400
>
>>There is no need to remove XI-300 from the Laws; I doubt very much Their 
>>Highnesses were truly attempting to *ban* anyone from using the 
>>Aethelmearc badge at Crown (perhaps more an unfortunate choice of words on 
>>Their part).  I believe the intent of the requirement for THIS Crown (and 
>>it is so far for THIS Crown Tournament only) is to request that all 
>>fighters have some personal arms to display.  I think requesting to change 
>>AE Law simply because of this instance is overkill.
>
>Then that needed to be clarified and perhaps it shall be in the near 
>future.
>
>>If you wish to make a written request to the Board to have the wording of 
>>this particular part of Corpora changed, then that is certainly within 
>>your right to do so.
>
>There is a much more elegant solution to this issue and one that is far 
>more preferable. One that does not involve letters and phone calls to the 
>BOD or the Society Seneschal, something that is always to be avoided 
>whenever possible. One that does not involve changes to Corpora or Kingdom 
>law. And one that does not involve changing HRH's qualifications for the 
>entrants to this Crown Tournament:
>
>Waive or reimburse the Æthelmearc CoA's share of the heraldic submission 
>fees for Crown entrants.
>
>Do that, and all of the negative issues that this requirement brings up 
>disappear. We get the heraldic pomp and splendor of the Crown entrants that 
>HRH and so many others want to see without the compulsory financial issues 
>which were the cause the problems in the first place. We don't need to be 
>writing or calling the BOD for a clarification to Corpora. We don't need to 
>be tinkering with Kingdom law. Hell, we can even have a fundraiser to pay 
>for the Laurel office's share, allowing the submissions to be entirely 
>gratis to the entrants. We are an exceptionally generous kingdom as has 
>been demonstrated time and time again. I saw it first hand watching 
>fighters and fencers drop tens and twenties into the jar for THL Caitlin's 
>cancer fundraiser at Ice Dragon. We can do this on our own. We should do 
>this on our own.
>
>The support for having legally submitted arms for our Crown entrants has 
>been indeed overwhelming and understandably so. The pageantry of such an 
>event is part of what makes us the society that we are and that pageantry 
>should indeed be encouraged. The entrants do much for us simply by 
>preparing themselves to assume the awesome responsibilities of wearing the 
>Crown and even more so should they gain it. Waiving or reimbursing the 
>submission fees is the very least that we as a kingdom can do for them.
>
>
>Rich Goranson (Lord Stephan Calvert deGrey)
>Amherst, NY, USA (Barony of the Rhydderich Hael, Æthelmearc)
>