[SCA-AE] Re: Offensive posturings

[Taranach]

Speaking of "taking offense"...

Would anybody care to note what the ratio of Knights with laurels IN 
armoring is to those knights with Laurels in something else? Is it 
indeed uncommon for knights to laurel in something unrelated to martial 
arts?

A "Laurel" is recognition for a great deal of research and application, 
and is quite often linked to active pursuits... in the case of a knight, 
perhaps in armoring, or combat... In the case of a fencer perhaps period 
weapons and styles.... in the case of an archer perhaps fletching or 
types of strung weapons... ad infinitum...

I believe the point was being made that it *WAS* outside of what could 
be considered the normal or expected fields of study.

I take particular offense that a *DOUBLE PEER* could be so unchivalrous, 
crass and RUDE on a public list for no more than a misinterpretation of 
a couple words without at least verifying the intent behind them...

I also take particular offense that some people can take their "personal 
offense" and not address it with the target of their "Personal offense" 
in private or directly and must either go public with it or circumvent 
their 'target' entirely and bring others in to "squash" the offender.

I also take a VERY DEEP personal offense when the "personal offense" of 
only *ONE* person, can be made to affect the activity of the entire group.

So the next time you "Take offense" to something, how about reflecting 
upon the reasons WHY you took offense, whether the offender was 
intentionally trying to offend, and whether your response, by it's very 
nature, could in turn offend someone else?

Taranach

Duane Wilkey wrote:
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>>bounces at lists.andrew.cmu.edu] On Behalf Of Arhylda at aol.com
>>Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:33 PM
>>To: discussion at aethelmearc.org
>>Subject: Re: [SCA-AE] Re: ANNOUNCE: Royal Court Report: Second
>>CourtofChristopher and...
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> You and Mord need to go out and have a beer together -
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>>brothers of that special breed of knight & Laurel (especially Laurels
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>>other than armour!). Well deserved.
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>>Maria A.S.
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> I really take offense to the above statement.  My Art has nothing to do
> with my fighting.  Do I have less of a Laurel because my chosen medium
> is metal?  Would it be more valid if I made table wear?  I make armour
> because I love to do it, not because I'm a Knight. Properly made armour
> of the later centuries won't work for SCA fighting. Should I stop making
> it because it would be useless to me as a SCA Knight? 
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> When I joined this group I set two very separate goals: One to become a
> Knight and two to become an armourer. They were very separate paths in
> my mind.  One was to study and modern art form ( SCA martial arts) and
> the other was to study a very real medieval art form (armouring).
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> Would you discount a clothing Laurel in such a manner if their specialty
> was undergarments that were be used in the arming of a Knight.  I think
> not.
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> Sorry if I sound snippy - but that statement really pushes my buttons.
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> AcW
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