[SCA-AE] (no subject)

Mon Nov 13 03:59:12 EST 2006

Erik, depending on where you are and what you want, I may be able to assist
you.  Umfortunately, I work the late evening shift.  Give me a call on my
cell (910) 547-3338, A North Carolina number but I now reside in Sunder Oak.

Vladimir
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Baldassano" <odlahorde at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at aethelmearc.org>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-AE] (no subject)

> Good gentles,
>
>   Regardless of the desire or not to have this ruling in place in this
kingdom....
>
>   I know that there were miss prints of the SCA Fighters hand book
numerous times.
>
>   I can not find my old copies to judge against (I think I may have given
some away at some point), but there were copies that I had from the 1980's,
1990s and at least one from the early 2000s.
>   Having been in the thick of the 'birthplace' at the time, we tended to
get some things a little earlier, and thus occassionally not quite as
finalized as other areas.
>
>   I remember getting a call from a book seller some years back, when I
bought a new copy of the fighters handbook for a household member, and was
told "we got a retraction from the authors, and have to reprint, please
bring that one back'. apparently there were some very odd changes that were
never meant to be in print.
>   However, enough reminiscing. The point is that it could be that one or
the other of you may have had a copy of the book that didn't have all the
"correct" information in it.
>   I know that West kingdom at the time REQUIRED a shield elbow, and as
such a number of the armorers would do things like...
>   3 elbows for the price of 2. by a set, and get an "under the shield"
elbow cop without a fan on it.
>
>   This practice was not only a good thing for the fighters, but it tended
to be a decent thing for the armorers as well.
>
>   A friend of mine who was into armoring for 20+ years before retiring
told me that the material used for the fanless elbow cop used to come out of
scrap, because it was easier for him to weld together 2 pieces to form the
cop without a fan than it was to dish out a whole new cop. Not only that but
he would usually get the scraps from the material he had for making the
other sets anyway... so he made out with LESS scrap that he could have
laying around.
>
>   So.....
>   What does this mean for those of us who are in Aethelmearc now, and
dealing with the regulation as it stands?
>   Well, for those of you who feel that this regulation takes away from the
spirit of the game, or what ever your reason, to make you not want to have
to deal with it. ....
>   You have your petition to revoke this ruling.
>
>   For those of you who feel that the regulation (for a shield sided elbow
cop) needs to be in place, then at least we have an option to find fanless
elbows.
>
>   For the armorer... entrepenuirs (can't spell sorry) are always good
people looking to make some money for nothing.... this may be the time to
start building up your stock piles of fanless elbows for those good gentles
that need a shield sided elbow cop.
>
>   Speaking of which, does any one have a good armorer close by?
>   I would like to find some one who can take some stainless that I have
(unfortunately 18 guage) and help me out with making some "pretty" stuff to
wear on the field. :D
>
>   --Eirik (the opinionated viking)
>
> William Rouse <willemmaclear at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   Maybe where you were from it was, but it is a recent addition to the
> marshal's handbook. Which is why we need more clarification on the ruling.
> I the November 2000 edition (what we were using before august 2006)
section
> VI subsection 6 paragraph A states that shield with padding under the
elbow
> is enough protection.
> In the August 2006 revision the language has been changed to specifically
> state that shields are not acceptable. I have both editions in front of me
> right now.
> Either your requirement was a regionalism, or you sir have been incorrect
> for 6 out of 15 years.
>
> Willem Mac Lear
>
> Region One Marhsal
>
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