<div dir="ltr">Yup, nothing so extreme, sorry to alarm anybody!<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Take care,</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 11:46 AM Mahadev Satyanarayanan <<a href="mailto:satya@cs.cmu.edu">satya@cs.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ah! Thank you for the clarification, Adam. I thought you meant<br>
a completely new fork with permanent independent life <br>
(e.g. OpenOffice and LibreOffice).<br>
-- Satya<br>
<br>
On Monday 25 March 2019 11:28:09 Adam Goode wrote:<br>
> Hi Satya,<br>
> <br>
> I agree it's best to always have a plan to bring forked changes into the<br>
> main openslide project.<br>
> GitHub is a little unusual in the sense that nearly all proposed changes<br>
> start out as a "fork": <a href="https://github.com/openslide/openslide/pulls" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openslide/openslide/pulls</a> is a<br>
> list of forks whose authors have proposed them to be merged.<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/openslide/openslide/network/members" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openslide/openslide/network/members</a> is a list of some<br>
> forks (folks who are doing some sort of development).<br>
> <br>
> It takes a good amount of time to review code and help get code into a high<br>
> quality, merge-ready state. I think it is to the benefit of anyone using<br>
> OpenSlide to help contribute to this.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> Adam<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:50 Mahadev Satyanarayanan <<a href="mailto:satya@cs.cmu.edu" target="_blank">satya@cs.cmu.edu</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > Hi Adam and Martin,<br>
> > Is #5 (inability to do commit changes without the help of one of the<br>
> > original<br>
> > developers) really the showstopper at present? I don't have that<br>
> > impression, but<br>
> > if that's the case it is easily fixed by us granting permission to<br>
> > specific,<br>
> > carefully-vetted individuals. We don't have a community-developed<br>
> > process in place, but for a small number of individuals it shouldn't be a<br>
> > big deal. If you can convince Adam Goode, Benjamin Gilbert, and Jan Harkes<br>
> > that you can be trusted with this role (and they tell me so),<br>
> > I can work out the mechanism. There is no need to create a fork just to<br>
> > be able to commit changes to the OpenSlide code base.<br>
> ><br>
> > My understanding is that it is #1 and #2 (lack of time and expertise) that<br>
> > is<br>
> > the limiting factor to OpenSlide evolution at the moment. Adam's advice<br>
> > on #1 to #4 are right on target for addressing that.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers<br>
> > -- Satya<br>
> ><br>
> > On Monday 25 March 2019 10:23:15 Adam Goode wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Martin,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Benjamin and I are are both quite busy with other things. I cannot speak<br>
> > > for Benjamin, but in my case I am not able to take money to work on side<br>
> > > projects like this. It is likely that Benjamin has a similar situation.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Given this information, how should you move forward? The typical advice I<br>
> > > give to organizations interested in OpenSlide is this:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1. Please identify someone in your organization to work on OpenSlide.<br>
> > This<br>
> > > can be someone in your development group or research group, or possibly<br>
> > > even a grad student in some circumstances.<br>
> > > 2. Explicitly allocate some amount of time for this person to work on<br>
> > > OpenSlide (perhaps 15-20%, possibly more while getting started).<br>
> > > 3. Introduce this person to the list and me.<br>
> > > 4. I will provide some of my time to answer questions and give some help<br>
> > > getting started.<br>
> > > 5. Depending on the circumstances, we may be able to grant permissions to<br>
> > > this person to let them approve pull requests and do other things. This<br>
> > > would be a good outcome, though I would have to discuss with Benjamin and<br>
> > > the CMU folks exactly what criteria we would use for granting this.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Note that, completely independently, you can fork the project and make<br>
> > > whatever changes you like. I encourage this! But please try to publish<br>
> > your<br>
> > > changes as we have done, and do so under the same license so that we<br>
> > could<br>
> > > eventually merge changes back someday. Forking may still be the correct<br>
> > > thing to do even if we do steps #1-4 above, since I can't currently say<br>
> > > what the criteria for #5 would be.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Adam<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 2:07 AM Martin Weihrauch <<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:m.weihrauch@smartinmedia.com" target="_blank">m.weihrauch@smartinmedia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Dear Benjamin:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I wanted to inquire, what the status of OpenSlide is. The last commit<br>
> > is<br>
> > > > almost 1 year old and there are some important pull requests (problem<br>
> > with<br>
> > > > bif, Motic and introduction of VMIC) waiting to be introduced.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I guess that you may have not the time to maintain it currently, which<br>
> > > > would be sad and a problem for so many of us, who rely on it.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Maybe some of the community here (me included) could throw in some<br>
> > money<br>
> > > > and we could pay you or someone else e. g. a quarter or a half of<br>
> > his/her<br>
> > > > salary to further maintain and expand this important library, which you<br>
> > > > created.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Looking forward to hearing from you.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Martin<br>
> > > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > > openslide-users mailing list<br>
> > > > <a href="mailto:openslide-users@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">openslide-users@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br>
> > > > <a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/openslide-users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/openslide-users</a><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> <br>
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