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<div style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial">Ellie,<br>
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Thanks for your feedback. I've just created a new feature
request issue for this:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2372">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2372</a>. I don't
have time now to implement it myself, though I'd definitely
prefer to spend time on expanding Cyrus than writing custom
scripts if I had the same need as 4 years ago.<br>
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Maybe some new Cyrus user would have time to make it happen, or
maybe I'd find some time later. So the issue is to document the
intention and to have defined some implementation details.
Probably, it could have the "help wanted" tag attached.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Anatoli<br>
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Ellie Timoney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 15, 2018 00:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Anatoli<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Info-cyrus<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: setting acl on autocreate folders<br>
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<div>Something like: <span class="font"
style="font-family:"Courier New"">autocreate_acl
<folder> <user> <acl></span> (multiple
autocreate_acl entries could be specified)<br>
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<div>That's roughly what I'd expect such a feature to look like
(without having thought about it in much depth). It seems like it
would be very useful for admins who don't already have their own
provisioning infrastructure.<br>
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<div>Ellie, do you think this is something of low
complexity?<br>
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<div>In my opinion, any new feature for ACL's is inherently high
complexity -- even if it's just a two line patch -- just because
of the amount of work involved in checking for side effects, error
handling, and making sure the documentation is up to scratch (so
that people don't accidentally configure it wrong and get into
trouble).<br>
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<div>That said, the code for reading config settings already exists,
as does the code for parsing and applying ACL's. So in theory it
should be a "simple" matter of bolting these bits together in the
right place(s). I'd be happy to review/advise on a pull request
along these lines!<br>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
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<div>ellie</div>
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<div>On Sat, May 12, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Anatoli wrote:<br>
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<div>> I think it's good that you have to explicitly set
"anyone p", because otherwise people would be able to send
plus+adressed mails to any mailbox whose name they can
guess.<br>
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<div> As the default behavior, I agree.<br>
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<div> I've just made a couple of tests: remove "anyone p" then
add "postman p" or add postman as "admins: postman" but none
of these worked for plus+addressing (P+A), so the <i>postman</i>
user appears to be some hardcoded way of dealing with LMTP
delivery and has nothing in common with the normal users and
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<div> If my assumptions are correct, I guess what Chen (OP)
was asking would be useful, i.e. to be able to define
"anyone p" (either as a toggle aimed at P+A or as a
free-form for any user/ACL) for some auto-created folders
along the other auto-configuration features (autocreate_XXX,
x-list, etc.). The idea is to be able to setup most common
settings for new users without any external scripts talking
to cyradm or imtest. In my case the "anyone p" permission is
the only thing pending.<br>
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<div> Something like: <span class="font"
style="font-family:"Courier New"">autocreate_acl
<folder> <user> <acl></span> (multiple
autocreate_acl entries could be specified)<br>
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<div> Ellie, do you think this is something of low complexity?<br>
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<div><b>From:</b> Sebastian Hagedorn<br>
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<div> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 11, 2018 04:36<br>
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<div> <b>To:</b> Anatoli<br>
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<div> <b>Cc:</b> Info-cyrus<br>
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<div> <b>Subject:</b> Re: setting acl on autocreate folders<br>
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<div>So what I'm observing in practice is that the "-a" option
is not enough <br>
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<div> to deliver plus+addressed mails without the "anyone p" ACL
permission in <br>
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<div> the folder, which makes me think that the user for "-a"
option is not <br>
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<div> from the admins group, though it probably should be,
right? I.e. lmtpd -a <br>
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<div> should be delivering plus+addressed mails without the
"anyone p" ACL <br>
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<div>I think it's good that you have to explicitly set "anyone p",
because otherwise people would be able to send plus-adressed
mails to any mailbox whose name they can guess.<br>
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<div> Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121, Zimmer 2.02 <br>
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<div> Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - Tel.
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