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<p>I opened an issue for this and I'm already testing a trivial fix.</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2076">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2076</a></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/03/2017 02:00 PM, Stephan Lauffer
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:20170803200017.Horde.WS0Wc8iAFuzrfDblOVndduP@pmail.phfr.de">Great!
pcre should be our problem, too. :)
<br>
<br>
Zitat von Gabriele Bulfon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com"><gbulfon@sonicle.com></a>:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
I found the reason! :)
<br>
If build does not find "libpcre", configure just says "libpcre :
no" , but then fails any list!
<br>
I could let it see my libpcre and have "libpcre : yes" : now it
works! :)
<br>
I will let you know my upgrade now.
<br>
Gabriele
<br>
Sonicle S.r.l.
<br>
:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
Music:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
Quantum Mechanics :
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>
Da: Stephan Lauffer
<br>
A: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
Data: 3 agosto 2017 15.38.24 CEST
<br>
Oggetto: Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
.oO(if you read my lines:)
<br>
In my setup there is no virtual domains support, see the output
of
<br>
"cyr_info conf" from my last post to the devel list (and yes,
<br>
virtdomains is off by default).
<br>
The problem does not occur on any distribution or cyrus-imapd
build.
<br>
But on some it occurs(!)
<br>
Ok is cyrus-imapd 2.4.x, 2.5.10, 2.5.11 on sles and openSUSE
since
<br>
"ever" till openSUSE-42.3 (few days old).
<br>
Not Ok is cyrus-imapd 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 on openSUSE-42.2 and
<br>
openSUSE-42.3 (no further suse tests)
<br>
Not OK is it on the XStramOS build of Gabriele, too of course.
<br>
OK is cyrus-imapd 3.0.2 on fedora 24, 25 and 26 (no more tests
from
<br>
me). My specs based on the latest one of fedora 26. I just
excluded
<br>
xapian, jmap and the cassadena test suite.
<br>
My specs for the suse and fedora builds are not 100% the same...
I try
<br>
to get them closer.
<br>
My guess: Maybe an older/missing lib or a "secret"
combination/setup
<br>
in the specs or configure parameter.
<br>
Zitat von Ken Murchison
<br>
:
<br>
This might be a virtual domains issue. I will have to ask one of
<br>
the other devs if something changed in that regard.
<br>
On 08/03/2017 08:37 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
<br>
All of my mailboxes, here's a piece of the output:
<br>
....
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.2017 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.2017.2017-07 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.2017.2017-07.Test3 0
<br>
default <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.2017.2017-07.Test3.Pippo 0
<br>
default <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.2017.2017-07.Test3.Pippo.Pluto
0
<br>
default <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.Test3 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.Test3.Pippo 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archive.Test3.Pippo.Pluto 0
<br>
default <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
sonicle.com!user.gabriele^bulfon.Archivio 0 default
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gabriele.prova@sonicle.com">gabriele.prova@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
....
<br>
*Sonicle S.r.l. *: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
*Music: *<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
*Quantum Mechanics : *<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>
*Da:* Ken Murchison
<br>
*A:* Gabriele Bulfon
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
*Data:* 3 agosto 2017 14.06.21 CEST
<br>
*Oggetto:* Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
What does 'ctl_mboxlist -d' show you?
<br>
On 08/03/2017 08:02 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
<br>
Obviously yes.
<br>
The new defaults are my standard since years, and are
<br>
explicitly stated in the imapd.conf :
<br>
allowusermoves: 1
<br>
lmtp_downcase_rcpt: 1
<br>
configdirectory: /sonicle/var/imap
<br>
partition-default: /sonicle/var/spool/imap
<br>
sievedir: /sonicle/var/sieve
<br>
sieve_extensions: fileinto reject vacation imapflags notify
<br>
envelope body relational regex subaddress copy
<br>
admins: admin
<br>
sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd
<br>
allowplaintext: yes
<br>
sasl_mech_list: plain
<br>
tls_client_ca_file: /sonicle/ssl/certs/acme/fullchain.pem
<br>
tls_server_cert: /sonicle/ssl/certs/acme/cert.pem
<br>
tls_server_key: /sonicle/ssl/certs/acme/key.pem
<br>
altnamespace: yes
<br>
virtdomains: userid
<br>
unixhierarchysep: 1
<br>
duplicatesuppression: 0
<br>
sendmail: /sonicle/sbin/sendmail
<br>
sieve_utf8fileinto: 1
<br>
xlist-archive: Archives
<br>
xlist-drafts: Drafts
<br>
xlist-sent: Sent
<br>
xlist-spam: Spam
<br>
xlist-trash: Trash
<br>
Also, everything works fine when selecting a folder and
<br>
fetching data.
<br>
Just listing (and info on cyradm) is totally silent.
<br>
How can I have imapd log more debugging on what's happening
<br>
during A1 LIST "" "*"?
<br>
I tried turning on "debug: 1" in imapd.conf but found very
<br>
little output.
<br>
Gabriele
<br>
*Sonicle S.r.l. *: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
*Music: *<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
*Quantum Mechanics : *<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>
*Da:* Ken Murchison
<br>
*A:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
*Data:* 3 agosto 2017 12.56.51 CEST
<br>
*Oggetto:* Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
Have you checked you values of unixhierarchysep and
<br>
altnamespace per the documentation? The defaults have
<br>
changed. You may have to turn both options off in imapd.conf
<br>
On 08/03/2017 05:11 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
<br>
Yes, and info doesn't work on a direct mailbox:
<br>
localhostinfo <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:user/gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com">user/gabriele.bulfon@sonicle.com</a>
<br>
Mailbox does not exist
<br>
But acls were listed!
<br>
*Sonicle S.r.l. *: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
*Music: *<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
*Quantum Mechanics :
<br>
*<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>
Da: Stephan Lauffer
<br>
A: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
Data: 3 agosto 2017 11.01.41 CEST
<br>
Oggetto: Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
Hi!
<br>
It seems as if you have the same problem as I
<br>
have. The only
<br>
difference here: I did not xfer/convert old
<br>
mailboxes, I was starting
<br>
with a new installation.
<br>
Check "info", it should fail, too.
<br>
sam. lam, dm and cm are working for example.
<br>
Zitat von Gabriele Bulfon
<br>
:
<br>
I tried using ctl_mboxlist -d , and I have a
<br>
correct output of my
<br>
mailboxes, listed in the internal cyrus format,
<br>
e.g. :
<br>
sonicle.com!user.test^gabry 0 default gbulfon
<br>
lrswipkxtecda1 cyrus lrswipkxtecda sonicle
<br>
lrswipkxtecda
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:test.gabry@sonicle.com">test.gabry@sonicle.com</a> lrswipkxtecda
<br>
using "." separator instead of "/"
<br>
(unixhierarchysep: 1) and "^"
<br>
instead of "."
<br>
Gabriele
<br>
Sonicle S.r.l.
<br>
:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
Music:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
Quantum Mechanics :
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
Da:
<br>
Gabriele Bulfon
<br>
A:
<br>
Ken Murchison
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
Data:
<br>
3 agosto 2017 9.51.21 CEST
<br>
Oggetto:
<br>
Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
Sorry, non of the stated operations are needed
<br>
nor work.
<br>
My mailboxes.db has been converted to twoskip as
<br>
stated from the db
<br>
header bytes:
<br>
sonicle@www:/sonicle/var/imap$ od -xc
<br>
mailboxes.db | more
<br>
0000000 02a1 0d8b 7774 736f 696b 2070 6966 656c
<br>
241 002 213 \r t w o s k i p f i l e
<br>
The master runs without complains, even turning
<br>
on imapd.log I get
<br>
only these, where the last one is my cyradm session
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www idled[8519]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_ca_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_client_ca_file' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www idled[8519]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_cert_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_cert' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www idled[8519]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_key_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_key' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www ctl_cyrusdb[8521]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning]
<br>
Option 'tls_ca_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_client_ca_file'
<br>
since version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www ctl_cyrusdb[8521]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning]
<br>
Option 'tls_cert_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_cert'
<br>
since version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www ctl_cyrusdb[8521]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning]
<br>
Option 'tls_key_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_key'
<br>
since version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www ctl_cyrusdb[8521]: [ID 702911
<br>
local6.notice]
<br>
checkpointing cyrus databases
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:15 www ctl_cyrusdb[8521]: [ID 127214
<br>
local6.notice] done
<br>
checkpointing cyrus databases
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:20 www imap[8528]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_ca_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_client_ca_file' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:20 www imap[8528]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_cert_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_cert' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:20 www imap[8528]: [ID 189579
<br>
local6.warning] Option
<br>
'tls_key_file' is deprecated in favor of
<br>
'tls_server_key' since
<br>
version 2.5.0.
<br>
Aug 3 09:46:22 www imap[8528]: [ID 529592
<br>
local6.notice] login:
<br>
localhost [::1] sonicle PLAIN User logged in
<br>
SESSIONID=
<br>
once I issue "lm", I get nothing.
<br>
Do I need to run reconstruct to get my mailboxes
<br>
back?
<br>
I tried various cyrus mailbox commands, but none
<br>
can see any mailbox data.
<br>
Any way to inspect what mailboxes it really sees?
<br>
Sonicle S.r.l.
<br>
:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
Music:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
Quantum Mechanics :
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
Da:
<br>
Ken Murchison
<br>
A:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
Data:
<br>
2 agosto 2017 19.25.22 CEST
<br>
Oggetto:
<br>
Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/download/upgrade.html#copy-config-files-and-update">https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/download/upgrade.html#copy-config-files-and-update</a>
<br>
On 08/02/2017 01:18 PM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:
<br>
I upgraded the cyrus binaries from 2.4.12 to 3.0.2.
<br>
The cyrus daemons run, imap authentication
<br>
works, logs look fine.
<br>
But then, no folder...users authenticate but
<br>
there is no folder.
<br>
Using cyradm on the original 2.4.12 host, "lm"
<br>
shows every folder.
<br>
Using cyradm on the new upgraded, "lm" shows
<br>
nothing.
<br>
Any idea?
<br>
Gabriele
<br>
Sonicle S.r.l.
<br>
:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
Music:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a>
<br>
Quantum Mechanics :
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a>
<br>
Da:
<br>
Gabriele Bulfon
<br>
A:
<br>
Stephan Lauffer
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
<br>
Data:
<br>
2 agosto 2017 15.34.18 CEST
<br>
Oggetto:
<br>
Re: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
<br>
We've almost finished packaging cyrus imapd
<br>
3.0.2 on XStreamOS.
<br>
I had to make a patch to build, though:
<br>
--- cyrus-imapd-3.0.2/imap/mailbox.h Wed Aug 2
<br>
12:48:45 2017+++
<br>
cyrus-imapd-3.0.2/imap/mailbox.h.new Wed Aug 2
<br>
12:50:48
<br>
2017@@ -283,7 +283,10 @@ #define
<br>
ITER_SKIP_DELETED (1
<br>
Gabriele
<br>
Sonicle S.r.l.
<br>
:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a>
<br>
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Data: 1 agosto 2017 9.26.02 CEST
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Oggetto: any working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2?
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Hi!
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Anybody with a working cyrus-imapd-3.0.2? Could
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