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    I don't think much has changed in the threading code for a while.  I
    would expect that the patch would apply pretty cleanly to 2.4.x.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/19/2016 02:58 AM, Gabriele Bulfon
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:23411455.32.1468911518721.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
      type="cite">
      <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><span
          style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px;">Wow! This is
          really interesting!</span><br style="font-family: Tahoma;
          font-size: 16px;">
        <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px;">What minimum
          version of cyrus sources can I use for these changes?</span><br
          style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px;">
        <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 16px;">At the
          moment I'm running servers with 2.4.12, on our illumos based
          distro XStreamOS.</span><br>
        <br>
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          </div>
          <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle S.r.l. </b>: <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.sonicle.com/"
              target="_new"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a></a></div>
          <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music: </b><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com/" target="_new"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></a></div>
          <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum Mechanics : </b><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon"
              target="_new"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></a></div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <hr><br>
        <br>
        <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
          Ken Murchison <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
          <b>A:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
          <br>
          <b>Data:</b> 14 luglio 2016 17.14.18 CEST<br>
          <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
        </font><br>
        <br>
        <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
          5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> I went ahead and committed an
          implementation of THREAD-REFS: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/commit/16747e608f32f9dd9348988d3f83cb8f1b037ff6">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/commit/16747e608f32f9dd9348988d3f83cb8f1b037ff6</a><br>
          <br>
          Per the draft, grouping by subject is skipped and threads
          (toplevel messages) are sorted by INTERNALDATE, while the
          messages within the threads are still sorted by SENTDATE.<br>
          <br>
          I confirmed that THREAD=REFERENCES is still correct, but I
          have nothing to compare THREAD=REFS results to. The current
          threading in Thunderbird is close, but it might be using
          INTERNALDATE throughout.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2016 04:44 PM, Ken
            Murchison via Info-cyrus wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote cite="mid:578556BD.9070505@andrew.cmu.edu"
            type="cite">
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            Gabriele,<br>
            <br>
            The attached patch is what I was thinking in terms of
            implementation. It skips the grouping by subject for REFS,
            but I didn't do the REFS-specific date handling. Contrary to
            what the THREAD=REFS draft says, I'm not sure if the special
            date handling should be done in step 4 or 6. I would have to
            did deeper into the code to see where is belongs.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2016 11:36 AM,
              Gabriele Bulfon via Info-cyrus wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote
              cite="mid:6694663.436.1467992167335.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
              type="cite">
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Mainly web
                clients, installed clients usually implements threading
                internally to overcome problems with the original
                references algorithm that is often confusing.</div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">The
                problem with references is that it includes subject
                grouping, that is an old netscape model of the 90s:
                today, we just need references within the headers ids,
                or we may take a wrong message in the thread just
                because it has a similar subject (for example automatic
                mails with same subjects would be treated as a thread,
                which is wrong).</div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Now, we're
                staring to implement threading view on our web
                collaboration software, running on cyrus.</div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">So we are
                investigating how RoundCube is doing threading on a
                dovecot installation, and we found it to be the same as
                the client algrithm of Thunderbird, which is fine.
                Looking at the protocol, it uses REFS first, probably
                because it has no subject grouping by definition, and it
                should have a better date sorting. Should, because I
                found that Dovecot does not sort it reversed...</div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Maybe I
                will ask Dovecot guys why they choose to keep sort same
                as references: I suspect that claim to support refs, but
                actually the do the same references functions, but never
                do subject grouping.<br>
                <br>
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                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle S.r.l. </b>:
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a></div>
                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music: </b><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></a></div>
                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum Mechanics
                      : </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></div>
                </div>
                <br>
                <hr><br>
                <br>
                <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
                  Ken Murchison <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
                  <b>A:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
                  <br>
                  <b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 17.17.32 CEST<br>
                  <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
                </font><br>
                <br>
                <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid;
                  MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <br>
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2016 11:08 AM,
                    Gabriele Bulfon wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote
                    cite="mid:13231554.430.1467990539863.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                    type="cite">
                    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Ok,
                      sure, but still two issues remain other than the
                      draft:</div>
                    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- we
                      need to get rid of subject grouping in REFS, it
                      only brings disorder, merging stuff that is not
                      related</div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                  I believe that the parameterization of the core
                  functions should be able to handle this.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <blockquote
                    cite="mid:13231554.430.1467990539863.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                    type="cite">
                    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- I
                      would try to guess why dovecot does not change
                      sorting in REFS, keeping it same as REFERENCES</div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br>
                  I would contact that Dovecot authors and find out
                  which version of the THREAD=REFS draft they based
                  their work on.<br>
                  <br>
                  BTW, which clients use THREAD=REFS?<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <blockquote
                    cite="mid:13231554.430.1467990539863.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                    type="cite">
                    <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
                      <div id="wt-mailcard">
                        <div style="font-family: Arial;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle
                            S.r.l. </b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a></div>
                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music: </b><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></a></div>
                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum
                            Mechanics : </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <hr><br>
                      <br>
                      <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
                        Ken Murchison <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
                        <b>A:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
                        <br>
                        <b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 16.39.17 CEST<br>
                        <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
                      </font><br>
                      <br>
                      <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid;
                        MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
                        <p>Is there an actual RFC? All I find is
                          draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01. Looking at that
                          draft, the only difference between REFS ad
                          REFERENCES is this:</p>
                        <pre class="newpage">    THREAD=REFS sorts threads by the most recent INTERNALDATE in each
    thread, replacing THREAD=REFERENCES step (4). This means that when a
    new message arrives, its thread becomes the latest thread. (Note
    that while threads are sorted by arrival date, messages within a
    thread are sorted by sent date, just as for THREAD=REFERENCES.)


</pre>
                        This being the case, I don't think we need two
                        copies of the threading functions. I'd modify
                        the exiting functions to take an additional
                        parameter to specify whether we're doing REFS or
                        REFERENCES and then have 2 wrapper functions
                        which call the main function with the parameter
                        set appropriately for the given algorithm.<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2016 10:03
                          AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote
                          cite="mid:10757728.421.1467986639278.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                          type="cite">
                          <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size:
                            13;">Ok, it works :) but checking against
                            dovecot implementation, it looks like they
                            have refs order same as references, but
                            without subject grouping. AFAIK the RFC on
                            refs says ordering of dates within the group
                            should be reversed. Am I wrong?<br>
                            <br>
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                              <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle

                                  S.r.l. </b>: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                  href="http://www.sonicle.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a></a></div>
                              <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music:
                                </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                  href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></div>
                              <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum

                                  Mechanics : </b><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                  href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></a></div>
                            </div>
                            <br>
                            <hr><br>
                            <br>
                            <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
                              size="2"><b>Da:</b> Gabriele Bulfon via
                              Info-cyrus <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu"><info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
                              <b>A:</b> Ken Murchison <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a></a>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
                              <br>
                              <b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 15.22.56 CEST<br>
                              <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
                            </font><br>
                            <br>
                            <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px
                              solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT:
                              5px">
                              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size:
                                13;">Testing ;) and checking against a
                                dovecot machine with refs and same
                                messages.</div>
                              <div style="font-family: Arial; font-size:
                                13;">Will let you know<br>
                                <br>
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                                  </div>
                                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle

                                      S.r.l. </b>: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.sonicle.com/"
                                      target="_new"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sonicle.com">http://www.sonicle.com</a></a></div>
                                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music:
                                    </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                      href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></div>
                                  <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum

                                      Mechanics : </b><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                      href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></a></div>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                                <hr><br>
                                <br>
                                <font face="Arial, Helvetica,
                                  sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b> Ken
                                  Murchison <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                    href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
                                  <b>A:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                    href="mailto:gbulfon@sonicle.com">gbulfon@sonicle.com</a>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                    href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>
                                  <br>
                                  <b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 15.02.38
                                  CEST<br>
                                  <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
                                </font><br>
                                <br>
                                <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080
                                  2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
                                  PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
                                  <p><br>
                                  </p>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                    07/07/2016 02:03 PM, Gabriele Bulfon
                                    via Info-cyrus wrote:<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote
                                    cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                    type="cite">
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">I can finally get
                                      back to this after so many months!</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">I checked the
                                      sources, and I actually see it
                                      doesn't look very hard.</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">Looks like:</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- renaming all
                                      functions like "index_thread_ref"
                                      into "index_thread_references"</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- duplicate them
                                      as "index_thread_refs"</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- let "references"
                                      alg call the "references" funcs</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- add support for
                                      "refs" in thread_algs and let them
                                      call the "refs" funcs</div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <br>
                                  Makes sense.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <blockquote
                                    cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                    type="cite">
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">then:</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- completely
                                      remove the call to
                                      "ref_group_subjects", we don't
                                      want it at all in refs</div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">- change the
                                      sortcrit to use the SORT_REVERSE
                                      modifier</div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <br>
                                  As long as you mean making these
                                  changes for just the "refs" variant
                                  and not both.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <blockquote
                                    cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                    type="cite">
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div style="font-family: Arial;
                                      font-size: 13;">what do you think?
                                      may be fine?<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div id="wt-mailcard">
                                        <div style="font-family: Arial;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle



                                            S.r.l. </b>: <a
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                                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music:


                                          </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></div>
                                        <div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum



                                            Mechanics : </b><a
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href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></a></div>
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                                      <br>
                                      <hr><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <font face="Arial, Helvetica,
                                        sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
                                        Ken Murchison <a
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                                        <b>A:</b> <a
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                                        <br>
                                        <b>Data:</b> 5 ottobre 2015
                                        14.04.02 CEST<br>
                                        <b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
                                      </font><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:
                                        #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
                                        5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> As far
                                        as I can tell, the last
                                        specification for thread=refs
                                        was here:<a
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href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01</a></a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        To implement this you want to
                                        look at index.c in the Cyrus
                                        source and add another entry to
                                        the thread_algs[] array. I'm
                                        guessing that you can reuse a
                                        lot of the existing
                                        index_thread_ref() code (which
                                        is probably needs to be renamed
                                        to index_thread_references()).<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                          10/05/2015 06:07 AM, Gabriele
                                          Bulfon wrote:<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote
                                          cite="mid:18262603.71.1444039631264.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                          type="cite">
                                          <div style="font-family:
                                            Verdana; font-size: 12;">
                                            <div id="wt-mailcard">Great,
                                              Ken. Can you give me some
                                              advice / pointer to the
                                              sources I should look at?</div>
                                            <div id="wt-mailcard"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div id="wt-mailcard">Gabriele</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <hr><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <font face="Arial,
                                              Helvetica, sans-serif"
                                              size="2"><b>Da:</b> Ken
                                              Murchison <a
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                                              <b>A:</b> <a
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href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a></a>
                                              <br>
                                              <b>Data:</b> 2 ottobre
                                              2015 19.08.04 CEST<br>
                                              <b>Oggetto:</b> Re:
                                              thread=refs<br>
                                            </font><br>
                                            <br>
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                                              style="BORDER-LEFT:
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                                              <div
                                                class="moz-cite-prefix">On

                                                10/02/2015 10:53 AM,
                                                Gabriele Bulfon wrote:<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote
                                                cite="mid:11844453.9.1443797615639.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                                type="cite">
                                                <div style="font-family:
                                                  Verdana; font-size:
                                                  12;">
                                                  <div id="wt-mailcard">Nice,

                                                    it's not a big deal
                                                    for us to upgrade to
                                                    new versions, surely
                                                    easier than porting
                                                    to Dovecot! ;)<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    So, maybe we can
                                                    help with the
                                                    implementation.</div>
                                                  <div id="wt-mailcard">In
                                                    my mind, it's almost
                                                    about changing the
                                                    "thread=reference"
                                                    and let it omit the
                                                    subject matching,
                                                    change sorting</div>
                                                  <div id="wt-mailcard">and...maybe



                                                    just this? How much
                                                    hard do you think it
                                                    is?</div>
                                                  <br>
                                                </div>
                                              </blockquote>
                                              <br>
                                              That sounds about right
                                              from what I remember of
                                              THREAD=REFERENCES (which I
                                              co-authored and
                                              implemented) and
                                              THREAD=REFS (which I think
                                              was last documented in
                                              2010).<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <blockquote
                                                cite="mid:11844453.9.1443797615639.JavaMail.sonicle@www"
                                                type="cite">
                                                <div style="font-family:
                                                  Verdana; font-size:
                                                  12;">
                                                  <hr><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <font face="Arial,
                                                    Helvetica,
                                                    sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
                                                    Bron Gondwana <a
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                                                    <b>A:</b> <a
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                                                    <br>
                                                    <b>Data:</b> 2
                                                    ottobre 2015
                                                    12.59.08 CEST<br>
                                                    <b>Oggetto:</b> Re:
                                                    thread=refs<br>
                                                  </font><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    style="BORDER-LEFT:
                                                    #000080 2px solid;
                                                    MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
                                                    PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
                                                    <div>No, there
                                                      isn't. The
                                                      conversations work
                                                      in 3.0 beta
                                                      contains a lot of
                                                      what would be
                                                      required to
                                                      efficiently
                                                      implement
                                                      THREAD=REFS, but
                                                      nobody has done
                                                      the work to
                                                      implement it.<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>It certainly
                                                      will never be
                                                      backported to the
                                                      2.4 series, which
                                                      is only getting
                                                      security updates
                                                      and fixes for
                                                      major bugs now.<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>Regards,<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>Bron.<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>On Fri, Oct 2,
                                                      2015, at 18:40,
                                                      Gabriele Bulfon
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                    </div>
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                                                      type="cite">
                                                      <div>Hi,<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div>we have
                                                        systems running
                                                        cyrus 2.4.12,
                                                        where thread
                                                        algorithms are
                                                        only references
                                                        and
                                                        orderedsubject.<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Is there
                                                        support for the
                                                        thread=refs
                                                        algorithm?<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div>Thanks<br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Gabriele<br>
                                                      </div>
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