<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Ok, it works :) but checking against dovecot implementation, it looks like they have refs order same as references, but without subject grouping. AFAIK the RFC on refs says ordering of dates within the group should be reversed. Am I wrong?<br><br><div id="wt-mailcard"><div style="font-family: Arial;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle S.r.l. </b>: <a href="http://www.sonicle.com/" target="_new">http://www.sonicle.com</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music: </b><a href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com/" target="_new">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum Mechanics : </b><a href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon" target="_new">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></div></div><br><hr><br><br><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b> Gabriele Bulfon via Info-cyrus <info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu><br><b>A:</b> Ken Murchison <murch@andrew.cmu.edu> info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu <br><b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 15.22.56 CEST<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br></font><br><br><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Testing ;) and checking against a dovecot machine with refs and same messages.</div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Will let you know<br><br><div id="wt-mailcard"><div style="font-family: Arial;">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Sonicle S.r.l. </b>: <a href="http://www.sonicle.com/" target="_new">http://www.sonicle.com</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Music: </b><a href="http://www.gabrielebulfon.com/" target="_new">http://www.gabrielebulfon.com</a></div><div style="font-family: Arial;"><b>Quantum Mechanics : </b><a href="http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon" target="_new">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gabrielebulfon</a></div></div><br><hr><br><br><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b> Ken Murchison <murch@andrew.cmu.edu><br><b>A:</b> gbulfon@sonicle.com info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu <br><b>Data:</b> 8 luglio 2016 15.02.38 CEST<br><b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br></font><br><br><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/07/2016 02:03 PM, Gabriele Bulfon
via Info-cyrus wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www" type="cite">
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">I can finally get
back to this after so many months!</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">I checked the
sources, and I actually see it doesn't look very hard.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">Looks like:</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- renaming all
functions like "index_thread_ref" into "index_thread_references"</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- duplicate them
as "index_thread_refs"</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- let "references"
alg call the "references" funcs</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- add support for
"refs" in thread_algs and let them call the "refs" funcs</div>
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Makes sense.<br>
<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www" type="cite">
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">then:</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- completely
remove the call to "ref_group_subjects", we don't want it at all
in refs</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">- change the
sortcrit to use the SORT_REVERSE modifier</div>
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As long as you mean making these changes for just the "refs" variant
and not both.<br>
<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:139418.370.1467914635571.JavaMail.sonicle@www" type="cite">
<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;"><br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13;">what do you think?
may be fine?<br>
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<font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Da:</b>
Ken Murchison <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
<b>A:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu">info-cyrus@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a> <br>
<b>Data:</b> 5 ottobre 2015 14.04.02 CEST<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: thread=refs<br>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT:
5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> As far as I can tell, the last
specification for thread=refs was here:<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-morg-inthread-01</a><br>
<br>
To implement this you want to look at index.c in the Cyrus
source and add another entry to the thread_algs[] array. I'm
guessing that you can reuse a lot of the existing
index_thread_ref() code (which is probably needs to be renamed
to index_thread_references()).<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/05/2015 06:07 AM, Gabriele
Bulfon wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12;">
<div id="wt-mailcard">Great, Ken. Can you give me some
advice / pointer to the sources I should look at?</div>
<div id="wt-mailcard"><br>
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<div id="wt-mailcard">Gabriele</div>
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Ken Murchison <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:murch@andrew.cmu.edu"><murch@andrew.cmu.edu></a><br>
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<b>Data:</b> 2 ottobre 2015 19.08.04 CEST<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/02/2015 10:53 AM,
Gabriele Bulfon wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:11844453.9.1443797615639.JavaMail.sonicle@www" type="cite">
<div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12;">
<div id="wt-mailcard">Nice, it's not a big deal for
us to upgrade to new versions, surely easier than
porting to Dovecot! ;)<br>
<br>
So, maybe we can help with the implementation.</div>
<div id="wt-mailcard">In my mind, it's almost about
changing the "thread=reference" and let it omit
the subject matching, change sorting</div>
<div id="wt-mailcard">and...maybe just this? How
much hard do you think it is?</div>
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That sounds about right from what I remember of
THREAD=REFERENCES (which I co-authored and implemented)
and THREAD=REFS (which I think was last documented in
2010).<br>
<br>
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Bron Gondwana <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brong@fastmail.fm"><brong@fastmail.fm></a><br>
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<b>Data:</b> 2 ottobre 2015 12.59.08 CEST<br>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<div>No, there isn't. The conversations work in
3.0 beta contains a lot of what would be
required to efficiently implement THREAD=REFS,
but nobody has done the work to implement it.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>It certainly will never be backported to the
2.4 series, which is only getting security
updates and fixes for major bugs now.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div> </div>
<div>Bron.<br>
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<div>On Fri, Oct 2, 2015, at 18:40, Gabriele
Bulfon wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Hi,<br>
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<div> </div>
<div>we have systems running cyrus 2.4.12, where
thread algorithms are only references and
orderedsubject.<br>
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<div>Is there support for the thread=refs
algorithm?<br>
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<div>Thanks<br>
</div>
<div>Gabriele<br>
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