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On 04/28/2015 08:31 PM, lowpass wrote:<br>
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<div>I had done an upgrade of some packages. I listed
those at the end of my first message. I don't think any
of them had anything to do with cyrus, though. But i'd
rebooted the server afterwards; i think that's why the
problem with cyrus began to appear.<br>
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Something, at some point, set cyrus-imapd-2.4 and cyrus-common-2.4
to 'deinstall', and a subsequent 'apt' command, even an upgrade,
would then cause the deinstallation to take hold. The actual
setting of the dpkg database to 'deinstall' may have happened some
time ago.<br>
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The reboot would just be icing on the cake, as most
pre-or-post-removal scripts will stop the service (although that
often doesn't work well).<br>
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# zgrep cyrus-imapd /var/log/apt/<br>
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I had already tried that. Nothing at all.<br>
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Just to be clear, that command, as you typed it above, will not
work. You need to run 'zgrep cyrus-imapd /var/log/apt/*'. Without
the glob at the end (*) you're just zgrepping the DIRENT. And, for
the record, zgrep will error with the <recursive> flag, "-R."<br>
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<div># sh -x /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd start<br>
+ LC_ALL=C<br>
+ export LC_ALL<br>
+ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin<br>
+ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin<br>
+ NAME=cyrmaster<br>
+ DAEMON=/usr/sbin/cyrmaster<br>
+ PIDFILE=/var/run/cyrmaster.pid<br>
+ DESC=Cyrus IMAPd<br>
+ test -x /usr/sbin/cyrmaster<br>
+ exit 0<br>
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Good idea about shell debugging, thanks. In any case, it's
failing because cyrmaster no longer exists. :-(<br>
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Bron: no, nothing in syslog. I'd checked that first thing.<br>
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I'm mystified as to what has happened. I think i'll try to
(re)install those packages and see what comes of it. But,
realistically, it looks like i should rebuild the server.<br>
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You should be fine just doing an "# apt-get install cyrus-imapd-2.4
cyrus-common-2.4" since the config files are still in place. This
package re-installation shouldn't touch any existing data.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
-nic<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Nic
Bernstein <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> You told us that you
had run some apt commands prior to this problem, but you
haven't told us what they were. If you tried to install
something which "replaces" cyrus-imapd, you may have
forced its removal.<br>
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What does "zgrep cyrus-imapd /var/og/apt/*" show?<br>
-nic
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<div dir="ltr">Gadzooks! It appears that the server
is actually missing some things.<br>
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# ls -l /usr/sbin/cyr*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2046 Mar 3 2014
/usr/sbin/cyrus<br>
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# ls -l /usr/lib/cyrus/bin/<br>
total 24<br>
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 27 18:29 ./<br>
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 27 18:29 ../<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2945 Mar 3 2014
init-helper*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4018 Mar 3 2014 makedirs*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4965 Mar 3 2014
upgrade-db*<br>
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# dpkg --get-selections | grep cyr<br>
cyrus-admin-2.4 install<br>
cyrus-clients-2.4 install<br>
cyrus-common install<br>
cyrus-common-2.4 deinstall<br>
cyrus-imapd-2.4 deinstall<br>
libcyrus-imap-perl24 install<br>
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hmmm ...<br>
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# dpkg-query -s cyrus-common-2.4<br>
Package: cyrus-common-2.4<br>
Status: deinstall ok config-files<br>
...<br>
# dpkg-query -s cyrus-imapd-2.4<br>
Package: cyrus-imapd-2.4<br>
Status: deinstall ok config-files<br>
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This is saying that the packages have been
selected for removal. But, a) I certainly have not
done so; and b) they already seem to be gone. And
i see nothing at all about them in appt's history
logs.<br>
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Deep breaths.<br>
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<div>Thanks for the quick response,
Bron. The symlink is ok.<br>
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# ls -l /var/run<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 18
2014 /var/run -> /run/<br>
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I tried creating the dir myself as you
suggested:<br>
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# mkdir /run/cyrus<br>
# chown cyrus /run/cyrus/<br>
# service cyrus-imapd start<br>
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[nothing]<br>
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<div>I tried removing the --quiet flag
from the startup script with same (non)
results.<br>
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What about the pid? As i understand, it's
not cyrus that creates that on startrup.
In any case, it's NOT being created. From
/etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd:<br>
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NAME=cyrmaster<br>
PIDFILE="/var/run/${NAME}.pid"<br>
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I've posted a message on the Ubuntu forum as
well, as i've a feeling the problem is not
with cyrus. I was hoping, though, that
another cyrus user might have run into this.<br>
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Bron Gondwana <span dir="ltr"><<a
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08:46 AM, lowpass wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I do have
socket and lock dirs under
/var/lib/cyrus but they were
last modified several years
ago and seem to be left over
from some other config.
Other dirs there have seen
more recent activity.
Everything seems to be
pointing towards the socket
& lock dirs being
created under /run but
there's nothing there.<br>
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<div>/run is a tmpfs which gets
created fresh on each reboot.<br>
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<div>Cyrus starts as user 'cyrus'
and has no permission to create
the directories it needs.<br>
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<div>Your init script should
create the directories - but if
you moved them somewhere other
than where the package expects
them to be, then it won't create
intermediate directories for
you.<br>
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<div>So, here's the thing:<br>
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<div>1) double check that /var/run
and /run are the same place -
they're mostly a symlink in
recent Debian/Ubuntu systems.
If not, I suggest that you audit
your configuration to be all in
/var/run or all in /run
(probably a good idea anyway for
more consistency.<br>
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<div>2) run these commands as
root:<br>
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<div>mkdir /run/cyrus<br>
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<div>chown cyrus /run/cyrus<br>
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<div>3) either put those commands
in a startup script that runs
before Cyrus starts, or edit the
init script for Cyrus - though
note that if you edit the init
script, you'll have to re-apply
those edits on upgrade.<br>
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<div>Unfortunately, this isn't
something we can fix in the
Cyrus binaries. They try to
create the directories, but they
just plain don't have
permissions to do so at that
stage of the process.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div>Bron.<br>
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