<div dir="ltr">I backed up:<br>/etc/imapd.conf<br>/etc/cyrus.conf<br>/etc/default/cyrus-imapd<br><br>and ...<br><br># apt-get install cyrus-common-2.4 cyrus-imapd-2.4<br>Reading package lists... Done<br>Building dependency tree <br>Reading state information... Done<br>The following extra packages will be installed:<br> libzephyr4<br>Suggested packages:<br> cyrus-pop3d-2.4 cyrus-murder-2.4 cyrus-replication-2.4 cyrus-nntpd-2.4<br> cyrus-caldav-2.4 cyrus-doc-2.4 apt-listchanges<br>The following NEW packages will be installed:<br> cyrus-common-2.4 cyrus-imapd-2.4 libzephyr4<br>0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.<br>Need to get 0 B/1,781 kB of archives.<br>After this operation, 43.7 MB of additional disk space will be used.<br><br>And everything is just fine now. Spooky.<br><br>Bron: after you mentioned creating the dirs in a script before cyrus starts up i remembered there's an "init-helper" script at /usr/lib/cyrus/bin that includes that functionality. It was while looking at that that i realised i was missing an armload of scripts, then also some binaries. Weird, weird day.<br><br>And thanks for the replies! I guess i should apologise for the noise. I realise this may seem all "dog ate my homework" but i swear i haven't the faintest idea what happened. If you hear about anyone else having mysterious deinstalls like that do let me know.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:31 PM, lowpass <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zijn.digital@gmail.com" target="_blank">zijn.digital@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I had done an upgrade of some packages. I listed those at the end of my first message. I don't think any of them had anything to do with cyrus, though. But i'd rebooted the server afterwards; i think that's why the problem with cyrus began to appear.<br></div><div><br># zgrep cyrus-imapd /var/log/apt/<br></div><br>I had already tried that. Nothing at all.<span class=""><br><br># sh -x /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd start<br></span>+ LC_ALL=C<br>+ export LC_ALL<br>+ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin<br>+ PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin<br>+ NAME=cyrmaster<br>+ DAEMON=/usr/sbin/cyrmaster<br>+ PIDFILE=/var/run/cyrmaster.pid<br>+ DESC=Cyrus IMAPd<br>+ test -x /usr/sbin/cyrmaster<br>+ exit 0<br><br>Good idea about shell debugging, thanks. In any case, it's failing because cyrmaster no longer exists. :-(<br></div></div><br></div>Bron: no, nothing in syslog. I'd checked that first thing.<br><br>I'm mystified as to what has happened. I think i'll try to (re)install those packages and see what comes of it. But, realistically, it looks like i should rebuild the server.<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Nic Bernstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nic@onlight.com" target="_blank">nic@onlight.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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You told us that you had run some apt commands prior to this
problem, but you haven't told us what they were. If you tried to
install something which "replaces" cyrus-imapd, you may have forced
its removal.<br>
<br>
What does "zgrep cyrus-imapd /var/og/apt/*" show?<br>
-nic<div><div><br>
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<div>On 04/28/2015 07:38 PM, lowpass wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Gadzooks! It appears that the server is actually
missing some things.<br>
<br>
# ls -l /usr/sbin/cyr*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2046 Mar 3 2014 /usr/sbin/cyrus<br>
<br>
# ls -l /usr/lib/cyrus/bin/<br>
total 24<br>
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 27 18:29 ./<br>
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 27 18:29 ../<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2945 Mar 3 2014 init-helper*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4018 Mar 3 2014 makedirs*<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4965 Mar 3 2014 upgrade-db*<br>
<br>
# dpkg --get-selections | grep cyr<br>
cyrus-admin-2.4 install<br>
cyrus-clients-2.4 install<br>
cyrus-common install<br>
cyrus-common-2.4 deinstall<br>
cyrus-imapd-2.4 deinstall<br>
libcyrus-imap-perl24 install<br>
<br>
hmmm ...<br>
<br>
# dpkg-query -s cyrus-common-2.4<br>
Package: cyrus-common-2.4<br>
Status: deinstall ok config-files<br>
...<br>
# dpkg-query -s cyrus-imapd-2.4<br>
Package: cyrus-imapd-2.4<br>
Status: deinstall ok config-files<br>
<br>
This is saying that the packages have been selected for removal.
But, a) I certainly have not done so; and b) they already seem
to be gone. And i see nothing at all about them in appt's
history logs.<br>
<br>
Deep breaths.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:49 PM,
lowpass <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zijn.digital@gmail.com" target="_blank">zijn.digital@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks for the quick response, Bron. The
symlink is ok.<br>
<br>
# ls -l /var/run<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 18 2014 /var/run
-> /run/<br>
<br>
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I tried creating the dir myself as you suggested:<br>
<br>
# mkdir /run/cyrus<br>
# chown cyrus /run/cyrus/<br>
# service cyrus-imapd start<br>
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[nothing]<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I tried removing the --quiet flag from the startup
script with same (non) results.<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
What about the pid? As i understand, it's not cyrus that
creates that on startrup. In any case, it's NOT being
created. From /etc/init.d/cyrus-imapd:<br>
<br>
NAME=cyrmaster<br>
PIDFILE="/var/run/${NAME}.pid"<br>
<br>
</div>
I've posted a message on the Ubuntu forum as well, as i've
a feeling the problem is not with cyrus. I was hoping,
though, that another cyrus user might have run into this.<br>
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<div>On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Bron
Gondwana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brong@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">brong@fastmail.fm</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On Wed, Apr 29, 2015, at 08:46 AM,
lowpass wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I do have socket and lock
dirs under /var/lib/cyrus but they were
last modified several years ago and seem
to be left over from some other config.
Other dirs there have seen more recent
activity. Everything seems to be pointing
towards the socket & lock dirs being
created under /run but there's nothing
there.<br>
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</span>
<div>/run is a tmpfs which gets created fresh on
each reboot.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Cyrus starts as user 'cyrus' and has no
permission to create the directories it needs.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Your init script should create the
directories - but if you moved them somewhere
other than where the package expects them to
be, then it won't create intermediate
directories for you.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So, here's the thing:<br>
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<div> </div>
<div>1) double check that /var/run and /run are
the same place - they're mostly a symlink in
recent Debian/Ubuntu systems. If not, I
suggest that you audit your configuration to
be all in /var/run or all in /run (probably a
good idea anyway for more consistency.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>2) run these commands as root:<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>mkdir /run/cyrus<br>
</div>
<div>chown cyrus /run/cyrus<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>3) either put those commands in a startup
script that runs before Cyrus starts, or edit
the init script for Cyrus - though note that
if you edit the init script, you'll have to
re-apply those edits on upgrade.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Unfortunately, this isn't something we can
fix in the Cyrus binaries. They try to create
the directories, but they just plain don't
have permissions to do so at that stage of the
process.<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards,<br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Bron.<br>
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<div>
<div>--<br>
</div>
<div>Bron Gondwana<br>
</div>
<div><a href="mailto:brong@fastmail.fm" target="_blank">brong@fastmail.fm</a><br>
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