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On 01/09/2009 12:59 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 10:13:25PM -0800, Robert Banz wrote:
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<pre wrap="">There's a significant upfront cost to learning a whole new system
for one killer feature, especially if it comes along with signifiant
regressions in lots of other features (like a non-sucky userland
out of the box).
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<pre wrap="">The "non-sucky" userland comment is simply a matter of preference, and
bait for a religious war, which I'm not going to bite.
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Well, yeah. Point. Though most Solaris admins I know tend to pull in
gnu or bsd utilities pretty quickly. I'll take that one back, it was
baity.
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So at the risk of entering into a flame war, I must say I am surprised
that no one has mentioned Nexenta/OS. <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nexenta.org/os">http://www.nexenta.org/os</a><br>
They have bolted the Ubuntu/Debian userland onto OpenSolaris to give
the Linux lovers out there a linuxy experience with access to all of
that shiny new Solaris bling, such as zfs and dtrace. You may want to
give it a look-see.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Patching is always an issue on any OS, and you do have the choice of
running X applications remotely (booting an entire graphic
environment!?), and many other tools available such as pca to help you
patch on Solaris, which provide many of the features that you're used
to.
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And I'm seeing there are quite a few third party tools that people have
written to ease the pain of patch management on Solaris (I believe it's
actually one of the nicer unixes to manage patches on, but when you're
used to apt-get, there's a whole world of WTFery in manually downloading
and applying patch sets - especially when you get permission denied on
a bunch of things that the tool has just suggested as being missing)
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Oh yeah, apt-get included.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
-nic<br>
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PS - This has been a very interesting thread to read. Some of us just
don't have the exposure to large systems like the participants in this
thread have, and this can be very educational.<br>
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