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    <p>Hi Anatoli,</p>
    <p>I'm guessing that this will be a couple of days work.  Bron has
      told me to carve out some time to work on this.  I have 4 flights
      and 2 hotel stays coming up June 4-14, which will give me some
      time to look at this.</p>
    <p>Can you summarize the functionality that you require and what the
      current problems are?  E.g., Do you need scheduling support on the
      shared calendar?  Do Apple clients not autodiscover the
      calendars?  Are ACLs working properly?</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/25/2018 12:22 AM, Anatoli wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial">Bron,
          Ken,<br>
          <br>
          I've just created a new issue for this: <a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2373"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2373</a>,
          so it's not lost in the mails archive.<br>
          <br>
          Please let us know if the community can sponsor the
          development.<br>
          <br>
          Thanks,<br>
          Anatoli<br>
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          Anatoli<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 09, 2018 00:40<br>
          <b>To:</b> Cyrus Devel<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: shared xDAV resources<br>
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            face="Verdana">Bron, Ken,<br>
            <br>
            Thanks for your explanations.<br>
            <br>
            Do you consider this is something possible to implement for
            an outside developer, i.e. without Cyrus HTTP/DB
            implementation internals understanding, nor solid knowledge
            of xDAV RFCs? I'd like to collaborate, but I believe it only
            makes sense to start this work if I could finish it without
            too much effort to become fluent with the related
            internals/standards.<br>
            <br>
            On the other hand, if I don't have a reasonable chance to
            implement it myself, could I sponsor the development by your
            team or help your team in other ways (e.g. extensive
            testing, logs/telemetry, etc.)?<br>
            <br>
            I have the Cyrus xDAV functionality deployed experimentally
            at one organization, everything looks good so far, but the
            fact that shared resources (calendars and addressbooks)
            can't be accessed from iOS devices obstructs its definitive
            deployment there and at other organizations. WebDAV
            resources work well on all devices with some minor issues on
            macOS (I'm debugging them now, looks like they only occur on
            previous versions of macOS, i.e. El Capitan).<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            > I originally wrote the code to handle public calendars
            in the "shared" namespace, but I focused on user calendars
            first, and public calendar support got tossed on the back
            burner.  It appears that the code for public calendars
            partly works.<br>
            <br>
            Public calendars actually work quite well, if the device can
            discover them. Currently, I've tested them with Thunderbird
            and haven't found any issues.<br>
            <br>
            Remote addressbooks are not supported in Thunderbird, so I
            use <i>CardBook</i> add-on and it works well with shared
            addressbooks, no issues detected. <i>Evolution</i> supports
            CardDAV natively and also works well with shared
            addressbooks.<br>
            <br>
            Regards,<br>
            Anatoli</font><br>
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          Ken Murchison<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 07, 2018 21:53<br>
          <b>To:</b> Bron Gondwana, Cyrus Devel<br>
          <b>Cc:</b> Ken Murchison<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: shared xDAV resources<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I originally wrote the code to handle
        public calendars in the "shared" namespace, but I focused on
        user calendars first, and public calendar support got tossed on
        the back burner.  It appears that the code for public calendars
        partly works.  <br>
        <br>
        My first thought to get auto-discovery of public calendars is to
        add /dav/calendars as a second calendar-home-set for users and
        see what the Apple clients do with that.  I don't know if they
        can handle multiple home-sets.  If that doesn't work, then we
        could map public calendars into the user's home-set via the same
        subscription mechanism that we use for CalDAV sharing.<br>
        <br>
        To answer the original question, calendars are enumerated by
        meth_propfind() and propfind_by_collection() in http_dav.c<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        On 4/7/18 8:25 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-family:Arial;">Ken knows this code best.  I bet
          there's something which is requiring that there's a user on
          the mboxname because we implement the same behaviour at
          FastMail by having a separate user on which shared resources
          are kept.  The DAV resources are stored per-user, and without
          a place to keep them for "shared calendars" that code might
          just not be accessible.  I'm sure it would be possible to
          create a shared DAV database as well for this case, but it
          just needs some programming effort.<br>
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          Bron.<br>
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        <div>On Sun, 8 Apr 2018, at 07:30, Anatoli wrote:<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;">Hi All,<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> I'm trying to understand the
            code responsible for enumerating user calendars (and xDAV
            resources in general) to try to make the discovery work for
            shared resources too (currently there's no way to access
            shared resources with Apple xDAV client implementation, yes
            with Thunderbird as it doesn't use the discovery mechanism,
            but instead should be pointed to the exact URL for each
            calendar). If I understand it correctly, the functionality
            is in imap/http_caldav.c.<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> Could you please point me to
            the place where the enumeration occurs and briefly mention
            how the general workflow looks like?<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> The client asks for:<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <span class="font"
              style="font-family:"Courier New"">PROPFIND
              /dav/calendars/user/<user@domain>/<br>
              <br>
              <A:propfind xmlns:A="DAV:"><br>
              ...</span></div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> The server responds with:<br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <span class="font"
              style="font-family:"Courier New"">HTTP/1.1 207
              Multi-Status<br>
              <br>
              <A:multistatus xmlns:A="DAV:" ...><br>
                <A:response><br>
                 
              <A:href>/dav/calendars/user/<user@domain>/</A:href><br>
                  <A:propstat><br>
              ...<br>
                </A:response><br>
                <A:response><br>
                 
<A:href>/dav/calendars/user/<user@domain>/Default/</A:href><br>
                  <A:propstat><br>
                    <A:prop><br>
              ...</span></div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> The idea is to include in the
            returned lists the shared calendars too with the discovery
            logic based on the IMAP shared folders.<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> Below goes the initial
            exchange between the calendar app on iOS 10.2.6 and Cyrus
            3.0.5 when the exact URL (/dav/calendars/shared/) for the
            shared calendar is provided in the advanced settings of the
            app (the URL finally resets to the user principals folder
            (/dav/principals/user/t3@domain.com/) as iOS is pointed to
            it by Cyrus). In the attached file goes the telemetry for
            the rest of the communication.<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> Thanks,<br>
          </div>
          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> Anatoli<br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Arial;"> <span class="font"
              style="font-family:"Courier New"">---------- <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:t3@domain.com">t3@domain.com</a>
              Sun Mar 25 06:05:36 2018<br>
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              <1521968736<<b>PROPFIND</b> <b>/dav/calendars/shared/</b>
              HTTP/1.1<br>
              Accept: */*<br>
              Content-type: text/xml<br>
              Connection: keep-alive<br>
              Content-length: 181<br>
              Host: mail.domain.com<br>
              User-agent: iOS/11.2.6 (15D100) accountsd/1.0<br>
              Prefer: return=minimal<br>
              Depth: 0<br>
              Brief: t<br>
              Accept-language: en-us<br>
              Authorization: Basic ...<br>
              Accept-encoding: br, gzip, deflate<br>
              <br>
              <1521968736<<?xml version="1.0"
              encoding="UTF-8"?><br>
              <A:propfind xmlns:A="DAV:"><br>
                <A:prop><br>
                  <A:current-user-principal/><br>
                  <A:principal-URL/><br>
                  <A:resourcetype/><br>
                </A:prop><br>
              </A:propfind><br>
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              <br>
              >1521968736>HTTP/1.1 207 Multi-Status<br>
              Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:05:36 GMT<br>
              Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=600<br>
              Vary: Accept-Encoding, Brief, Prefer<br>
              Preference-Applied: return=minimal<br>
              Content-Type: application/xml; charset=utf-8<br>
              Content-Length: 546<br>
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              <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><br>
              <A:multistatus xmlns:A="DAV:"
              xmlns:C="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:caldav"><br>
                <A:response><br>
                  <A:href><b>/dav/calendars/shared/</b></A:href><br>
                  <A:propstat><br>
                    <A:prop><br>
                      <A:current-user-principal><br>
                        <A:href><b>/dav/principals/user/t3@domain.com/</b></A:href><br>
                      </A:current-user-principal><br>
                      <A:resourcetype><br>
                        <A:collection/><br>
                        <C:calendar/><br>
                      </A:resourcetype><br>
                    </A:prop><br>
                    <A:status>HTTP/1.1 200 OK</A:status><br>
                  </A:propstat><br>
                </A:response><br>
              </A:multistatus><br>
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              <1521968736<OPTIONS
              /dav/principals/user/t3%40domain.com/ HTTP/1.1<br>
              Host: mail.domain.com<br>
              Connection: keep-alive<br>
              Accept: */*<br>
              User-Agent: iOS/11.2.6 (15D100) accountsd/1.0<br>
              Accept-Language: en-us<br>
              Content-Length: 0<br>
              Accept-Encoding: br, gzip, deflate<br>
              <br>
              >1521968736>HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
              Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:05:36 GMT<br>
              Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=600<br>
              Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
              Link: </dav/principals/.server-info>;
              rel="server-info";
              token="80769c2c66d340ecd178710db26d56b9c4699e3e"<br>
              DAV: 1, 2, 3, access-control, extended-mkcol,
              resource-sharing<br>
              DAV: calendar-access, calendar-auto-schedule<br>
              DAV: calendar-query-extended, calendar-availability,
              calendar-managed-attachments<br>
              DAV: calendarserver-sharing, inbox-availability<br>
              DAV: addressbook<br>
              Allow: OPTIONS, GET, HEAD<br>
              Allow: PROPFIND, REPORT, COPY<br>
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          <div class="signature">--<br>
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          <div class="signature">  Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Kenneth Murchison
Cyrus Development Team
FastMail Pty Ltd</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Ken Murchison
Cyrus Development Team
FastMail US LLC</pre>
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