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<body><div style="font-family:Arial;">Thanks Jan,<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">I wonder if we want to set up a second meeting time, either fortnightly or weekly, that does the other cross over and allows us to more easily include middle and west America. Our current meeting time is 10pm for Australia, so something that was during the Australian day and afternoon/evening across the USA would work fine for everybody except Europeans.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">As Ken has already noted - we still want to support SASL. Now that we have him full time, he's going to release a new version, and at our scheduling meeting on Monday, Nicola bumped up the priority of updating the SASL documentation and converting it to the sphinx-based build system.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Regardless of whether Cyrus-* leaves CMU (which is still being discussed with both CMU and potential new homes), the project intends to keep supporting SASL.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;">Bron.<br></div>
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<div>On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, at 09:40, jan parcel wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Arial;">On problem I have is that people in imap development seem to say
(and, on the web, too) that cyrus-sasl means imap, leaving cyrus-?
to mean libsasl?<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> Other than that....<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> I cannot volunteer as a regular contributor because my regular job
uses up all my time. However, company policy requires us to send
"upstream" all relevant bug fixes we create, and to file bugs we
find to upstream regardless of whether or not we need to fix them --
for instance, I might never fix the bug with failing to exclude
ldapdb when so configured, unless a customer demands that plugin,
which I suspect will not happen. We are also required to SECRETLY
and SECURELY report security bugs upstream. <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> Company policy definitely encourages us to have a relationship with
upstream developers. <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> But I'm also in the U.S. west coast timezone (Pacific Time) and 4am
is not doable for me except in extreme emergencies (such as a
high-scoring CVE that needs immediate attention, for instance.) <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> So, I don't quite know what you will find acceptable in the way of
participation from me, but I want to be cooperative to a libsasl
community and contribute where I can, and participate if there are
meetings that I can reasonably attend. I'd say times between 6:00
AM - 1AM would be doable. <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> And if the libsasl project were to lose all upstream support, I
would be required to report that to my management, and abide by any
decisions they make wrt whether to look for a supported alternative. <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> sendmail can also profitably use libsasl2.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> So, thanks for including me in this thread.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial;"> Jan Parcel <br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial;"> Software Developer <br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial;"> <span class="highlight" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)">Oracle
Systems Server & Cloud Engineering</span><br></div>
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<div class="signature"> Bron Gondwana, CEO, FastMail Pty Ltd<br></div>
<div class="signature"> brong@fastmailteam.com<br></div>
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