<div dir="ltr">James,<div><br></div><div>Is it possible that the issue you are describing is related to a particular model that is either new in Alice 3.8 or modified in Alice 3.8?</div><div><br></div><div>I've found some models have issues that create weird problems that can occur if an instance of the model is present in a program.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:35 PM Vanderhyde, James <<a href="mailto:vanderhyde@sxu.edu" target="_blank">vanderhyde@sxu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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seconds, up to a minute or more, and then recovers and starts working again. It feels like a memory leak, but I don’t know what it is. I don’t think it’s the same thing Heidi is describing, because it started in version 3.8.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"> Thanks so much for responding so fast. You guys are awesome. We will try the new version first. Just wondering....has anyone else written in about this issue? I know that rosetta was a problem in previous Mac OS versions.
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<div>Is there a reason you’re on Alice 3.6 instead of the latest version of Alice 3.8? I’m not sure it solves the problems but it would be the first thing to try? </div>
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