<div dir="ltr">Adam,<div><br><div>Thanks for sharing this compilation of student VR worlds. </div><div>It's great to see how much they can accomplish in a semester on a new platform.</div><div><br></div><div>Would be interested in hearing about any challenges students may have encountered or features they wished they had. We have some things in the pipeline to support Quest 2, untethered soon.</div><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div>Melanie</div><div><br></div><div>Director</div><div>Alice Project</div><div><br></div><div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:42 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thank you for the feedback.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Matjaz these students are 14-17 year olds, no formal programming experience.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Bill I am intimidated by YouTube but will try. Your online academy is truly awesome.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 9:01 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Adam,</div><div><br></div>These are awesome.<div><br></div><div>Have you considered posting this on YouTube and/or tweeting a link out?</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:43 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and anticipated continuing help and support.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage :</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958" target="_blank">https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">AZ</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi network. The cord works well too (unsecured wifi at school).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904" target="_blank">Latest developments throw me an exception w</a>henever there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to get something started.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Have a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the email chain.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Adam Z</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Please disrerad last message. I found this:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/" target="_blank">https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Bill,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have onboard :(</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some such...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks ahead of time,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Adam Z</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">* if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter mailboxes, my email is <a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>. Thanks*</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Adam,<div><div><br></div><div>Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work with the Oculus Link?</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Dear All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to handle it all, <a href="https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8" target="_blank">Oculus Setup.exe</a>. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and toggle AirPlay.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice Player.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very cool, tea anyone?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"> The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really close at the movie theater.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">(I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy it if ever needed)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Same total immersion as the AirLink.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the semester. Thank you all so much for your help.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January. 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After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn’t actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord. I found the following article that appears to show:<br>
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1. Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR (there are directions in the link)<br>
2. Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked article)<br>
3. The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to support that view)<br>
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I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how the experience is.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Eric<br>
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> On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Adam,<br>
> <br>
> As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.<br>
> <br>
> Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible graphic card.<br>
> <br>
> If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.<br>
> <br>
> You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as helpful.<br>
> <br>
> Bill<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <<a href="mailto:ewbrown@andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">ewbrown@andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> Adam,<br>
> <br>
> As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr. It can however run as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop. This cord can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component. If you have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that will power it. It is not an application that you need to purchase. If you look at this page you will see the download software button associated with the section:<br>
> <br>
> Oculus link: To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.<br>
> <br>
> You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently runs on desktop. If you have this application up and running and you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.<br>
> <br>
> Sincerely,<br>
> <br>
> Eric<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <<a href="mailto:aziccardi@opschools.org" target="_blank">aziccardi@opschools.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.<br>
> > I've focussed on this:<br>
> > ******<br>
> > Running the Player in VR<br>
> > <br>
> > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are properly running. It is key that the Oculus base application is running before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is present.<br>
> > <br>
> > • Start the Oculus application<br>
> > *****<br>
> > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.<br>
> > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,<br>
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