<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is a known problem with Alice 3, one that we are working on, but it is a source of frustration for us.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some have already mentioned moving the camera a bit… We are starting to think that in some, let me emphasize not all, cases the bounding boxes of other objects in the scene may be causing some interference…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are some work arounds…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Using a shift-click and drag will move an object up and down, and using a control-click (option-click on a Mac) and drag will turn an object left and right…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You may also use the one-shots, by right-clciking on an object and select procedures from the drop down menu, or the one-shot menu and selecting procedures in the object control panel in the right panel of the Scene Editor.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the meantime, we will continue to work on this problem.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for your patience.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class="">Don Slater</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2;">Alice Team</span></div><div class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="" style="text-align: -webkit-auto; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class="">Carnegie Mellon University</div><div class="">5000 Forbes Avenue</div><div class="">Pittsburgh, PA 15213</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Email: <a href="mailto:don@alice.org" class="">don@alice.org</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.<br class="">--- Henry David Thoreau</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton</div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:39 PM, McLean, Jennifer <<a href="mailto:jmclean@klschools.org" class="">jmclean@klschools.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Some students are having a problem with Windows version of Alice 3.2.5. When they add objects to a scene, it doesn't let them select the object. It keeps going back to the selecting "this" in the object list. Anyone else seeing this problem? Also, it is not on all computers.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Thanks, Jennifer</div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" customtabindex="-1" disabled="true" style="display: inline-block; width: 704.609375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers-bounces+jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:alice-teachers-bounces+jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="">alice-teachers-bounces+jmclean=klschools.org@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>> on behalf of Don Slater <<a href="mailto:dslater@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">dslater@andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:03 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Alice Teachers<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: alice-teacher Alice 3 Gallery</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="">Something to be aware of when working with billboards in Alice 3. When creating the billboard, you are given options to “paint” both the front and back side of the billboard. (See attached screen shot) Be sure to choose a paint (even if it is a side you do not anticipate seeing in your animation) for the back, or the billboard may not render correctly. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><div class="" style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class="">Don Slater</div><br class="">Alice Team<br class="">Carnegie Mellon University<br class="">Entertainment Technology Center<br class="">700 Technology Drive<br class="">Pittsburgh, PA 15219<br class=""><br class="">Email: <a href="mailto:dslater@cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">dslater@cmu.edu</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.<br class="">--- Henry David Thoreau</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton<br class=""><br class=""></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><img 312?="" width="504" id="10D758CE-9BC9-4DF1-82D8-1E2652EF4F52" class="" src="x-msg://10/service.svc/s/GetFileAttachment?id=AAMkADZiNDczYjA4LTU5ZTAtNDk1NC04MDBjLTM1MzJiZGEzYzkwNQBGAAAAAABpRwTn6VuiRa6bCdahqOdkBwAIusEDARtMS4SK0QGyD9%2FeAAAAAAEQAAAIusEDARtMS4SK0QGyD9%2FeAAHyteWQAAABEgAQACgrA8pQL7pBmmlW9WKqxq4%3D&X-OWA-CANARY=QRf5lNeHfESm_IoNXtia3xAkKcAOutIY4OTJ4FSlzaDe_AgNkXFxywW5aE1JGK1pDjl4i7wnZGA." style="-webkit-user-select: none;"></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Leonel Morales <<a href="mailto:litomd@gmail.com" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">litomd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Another possibility would be using six billboards each with a front</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">paint of the one of the six faces of a dice, six images of the</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">different sides of a dice would be needed.</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Then the tricky part: assemble them as a dice setting one of them as</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">the vehicle for the rest.</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Regards,</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Leonel</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">2015-09-08 3:02 GMT-06:00, Wanda Dann <</span><a href="mailto:wpdann@andrew.cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;">wpdann@andrew.cmu.edu</a><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">>:</span><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;"><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;">Don is absolutely right... no dice in the gallery. After reading this<br class="">thread, however, I began<br class="">to think about the possibility of making your own die using a couple of<br class="">the shapes in the Gallery.<br class=""><br class="">I did this once in Alice 2, but then we built a die for that gallery and<br class="">I threw my "custom made"<br class="">in the trash.<br class=""><br class="">Here is the idea:<br class="">1. Create a box object but change its size to a small cube.<br class="">2. Position small discs (change size and make a black color) to be the<br class="">dots on each side.<br class=""> Make the vehicle of each disc be the cube, so when the die is<br class="">tossed (combination of turn and roll) the discs stick to the<br class=""> cube.<br class="">3. Write procedures to toss the die and determine which side is up.<br class=""><br class="">This would take some time and patience... but I think it would work.<br class="">Maybe one of your students would like this as<br class="">a project?<br class=""><br class="">If you get it to work, perhaps you would be willing to save it out as a<br class="">custom class and share it with<br class="">teachers on this list?<br class=""><br class="">Best wishes,<br class="">Wanda<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 9/7/2015 4:53 PM, Don Slater wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Steve,<br class="">The current gallery does not currently have any classes you might use<br class="">in a dice game. They are in the list, but have yet to be implemented.<br class=""><br class="">Sorry,<br class=""><br class="">Don Slater<br class=""><br class="">Alice Team<br class="">Carnegie Mellon University<br class="">Entertainment Technology Center<br class="">700 Technology Drive<br class="">Pittsburgh, PA 15219<br class=""><br class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dslater@cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">dslater@cmu.edu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:dslater@cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">mailto:dslater@cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><br class="">I have learned this at least by my experiment: that if one advances<br class="">confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the<br class="">life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common<br class="">hours.<br class="">--- Henry David Thoreau<br class=""><br class="">The true object of all human life is play. -- G.K. Chesterton<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Sep 7, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Steven Jang <<a href="mailto:sjang@pacificacademy.org" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">sjang@pacificacademy.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:sjang@pacificacademy.org" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">mailto:sjang@pacificacademy.org</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hello Everyone,<br class=""><br class="">Does the Alice 3 Gallery have classes I could use for a dice game?<br class=""><br class="">Steve, Pacific Academy<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">alice-teachers mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a>><br class=""><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">alice-teachers mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu" class="" tabindex="-1" disabled="true">alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers" class="">https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><span class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; 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