<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">I have not taken either of these courses... if you've ever taken computer programming, or been a programmer, you will find Alice easy to use and learn. The two courses you are contemplating teach alice version 2... which is very appropriate for 6-8 grades. </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">There are some training materials, mostly for alice version 3, at alice.org.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">Don't know who is telling you that you have to go to a 2 week course, but it is very reasonable to learn alice through one of these, or some other online tutorial. Alice 2.0 has tutorials built into it, which I found very helpful the first time I learned it. ALSO... if you plan to use a book to teach the course, reading the book and working through the examples would help you learn to program, using Alice.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">Frank Hulsman</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">Saint Xavier High School</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188">Louisville, Ky </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6188"><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6193"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6192"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6191"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6190"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Don Slater <dslater@andrew.cmu.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Alice Teachers <alice-teachers@lists.andrew.cmu.edu> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:06 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> alice-teacher Alice Training?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6194"><br><div id="yiv2213656255"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6196"><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6195"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6198"><div class="yiv2213656255moz-forward-container" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6197"><table class="yiv2213656255moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody class="yiv2213656255"><tr class="yiv2213656255"><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="" valign="BASELINE" class="yiv2213656255">Date: </th><td class="yiv2213656255">Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:53:46 -0500</td></tr><tr class="yiv2213656255"><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="" valign="BASELINE" class="yiv2213656255">From: </th><td class="yiv2213656255">Tamara Mazza <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv2213656255moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:tamara.mazza@ahschool.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tamara.mazza@ahschool.com"><tamara.mazza@ahschool.com></a></td></tr><tr class="yiv2213656255"><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="" valign="BASELINE" class="yiv2213656255"><br class="yiv2213656255"></th><td class="yiv2213656255"><br class="yiv2213656255"></td></tr></tbody></table><div dir="ltr" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6199">I am reaching out to as many people as possible to find away to not attend a 2 week or a week long training that is only offered in the summer time. <div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6200"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6201">Have you heard any success from any online courses that are out there? I found 2 online courses and wanted to make sure that I am not being scammed. </div><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6202"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6204"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6203"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.vtc.com/products/Programming-With-Alice-Tutorials.htm" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6206">http://www.vtc.com/products/Programming-With-Alice-Tutorials.htm</a><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_6205"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_9280"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.expertrating.com/certifications/Instructorled/Database-Management-Programming/Alice-2.0-Programming-Introduction-to/Alice-2.0-Programming-Introduction-to.asp" class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_9279">http://www.expertrating.com/certifications/Instructorled/Database-Management-Programming/Alice-2.0-Programming-Introduction-to/Alice-2.0-Programming-Introduction-to.asp</a><br class="yiv2213656255"></div></div><div class="yiv2213656255" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423766055694_9281"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div class="yiv2213656255">I would greatly appreciate any advice as I am looking to order your book to teach this course. </div><div class="yiv2213656255"><br clear="all" class="yiv2213656255"><div class="yiv2213656255"><br class="yiv2213656255"></div>-- <br class="yiv2213656255"><div class="yiv2213656255gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv2213656255"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv2213656255"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv2213656255"><div class="yiv2213656255"><span style="border-collapse:separate;" class="yiv2213656255"><div class="yiv2213656255"><div style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><i style="font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><font color="#0000ff" class="yiv2213656255">Sincerely, </font></i><br class="yiv2213656255"></div><div class="yiv2213656255"><div style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><i class="yiv2213656255"><font color="#0000ff" class="yiv2213656255">Tamara Mazza</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><i class="yiv2213656255"><font color="#0000ff" class="yiv2213656255"><br class="yiv2213656255"></font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><i style="font-size:12.7272720336914px;" class="yiv2213656255"><font color="#0000ff" class="yiv2213656255">Computers - 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