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feedback. That's what I am thinking for next year. Scratch for 6th,
Alice 2.x for 7 and 8 (Advanced scratch for some 7th graders) and
possibly Alice 3.x for some advanced 8th graders. I would need to learn
both 2.x and 3.x before September. <br>
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Susan<br>
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Phil Funk's comment. I use Scratch with grades 4-6, Alice 2x with grades
7-8, and Alice 3x with grade 9. It's a nice transition up to Alice 3x
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div>Regarding question from
Susan in Vol 46 Issue 5, I completely agree with the response from
Marilynn regarding using Alice 2.x vs. Alice 3.x. Don't worry about
students who have done some Java programming. That probably means they
are aware of the need for syntax considerations such as semi-colons and
braces. Alice eliminates those needs.<br>In terms of teaching
principles and concepts, there is a lot more to be learned from a
semester with Alice than there would be from two semesters with Java
(obviously my opinion - based on some experience - here).<br>If you are
beginning with sixth graders, you might consider starting out with
Scratch (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://scratch.mit.edu">http://scratch.mit.edu</a>) and then transitioning to Alice.<br>
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