From hkunselman at d92.org Mon Apr 1 22:59:35 2024 From: hkunselman at d92.org (Heidi Kunselman) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 21:59:35 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher sonoma HELP ! Message-ID: Hello everyone I have been using alice for 12 years with my middle school students and would like to continue teaching my students with this wonderful tool. We were having issues running Alice 2 so we moved to Alice 3.6. I have a M1 mac book with the Sonoma 14.3 and cannot get alice to run.It keeps freezing and I have to force quit. It is also giving me a rendering error due to performance issues when I select run. If I can't find a solution the Alice program will be pulled. My new tech dept has limited exposure to working with Macs so it's been a struggle. Please help..... Thanks Heidi Kunselman Your Chicago Steelers Fan ! -- Heidi Kunselman Technology Teacher Robotics Club Mentor T.I.L.T. Commitee Member Oak Prairie J.H. Will County School District 92 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 *"Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." * -*Satya Nadella* * CEO of Microsoft* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From melanielam at cmu.edu Mon Apr 1 23:17:11 2024 From: melanielam at cmu.edu (Melanie Lam) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:17:11 -0700 Subject: alice-teacher sonoma HELP ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi, Sorry to hear you?re running into Alice issues. Is there a reason you?re on Alice 3.6 instead of the latest version of Alice 3.8? I?m not sure it solves the problems but it would be the first thing to try? Thanks, Melanie On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:12?PM Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers < alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > Hello everyone > I have been using alice for 12 years with my middle school students and > would like to continue teaching my students with this wonderful tool. We > were having issues running Alice 2 so we moved to Alice 3.6. I have a M1 > mac book with the Sonoma 14.3 and cannot get alice to run.It keeps freezing > and I have to force quit. It is also giving me a rendering error due to > performance issues when I select run. If I can't find a solution the Alice > program will be pulled. My new tech dept has limited exposure to working > with Macs so it's been a struggle. Please help..... > Thanks > Heidi Kunselman > Your Chicago Steelers Fan ! > > -- > Heidi Kunselman > Technology Teacher > Robotics Club Mentor > T.I.L.T. Commitee Member > Oak Prairie J.H. > Will County School District 92 > 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 > > *"Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." * > -*Satya Nadella* > * CEO of Microsoft* > _______________________________________________ > alice-teachers mailing list > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -- *Melanie Lam* | Director | The Alice Project *Entertainment Technology Center | Carnegie Mellon University* | 415 608 4033 | melanielam at cmu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hkunselman at d92.org Tue Apr 2 09:16:31 2024 From: hkunselman at d92.org (Heidi Kunselman) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 08:16:31 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher sonoma HELP ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Melanie, Thanks so much for responding so fast. You guys are awesome. We will try the new version first. Just wondering....has anyone else written in about this issue? I know that rosetta was a problem in previous Mac OS versions. Is this still the case? Thanks Again Heidi On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 10:25?PM Melanie Lam wrote: > Heidi, > > Sorry to hear you?re running into Alice issues. > > Is there a reason you?re on Alice 3.6 instead of the latest version of > Alice 3.8? I?m not sure it solves the problems but it would be the first > thing to try? > > Thanks, > Melanie > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:12?PM Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers < > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >> >> Hello everyone >> I have been using alice for 12 years with my middle school students and >> would like to continue teaching my students with this wonderful tool. We >> were having issues running Alice 2 so we moved to Alice 3.6. I have a M1 >> mac book with the Sonoma 14.3 and cannot get alice to run.It keeps freezing >> and I have to force quit. It is also giving me a rendering error due to >> performance issues when I select run. If I can't find a solution the Alice >> program will be pulled. My new tech dept has limited exposure to working >> with Macs so it's been a struggle. Please help..... >> Thanks >> Heidi Kunselman >> Your Chicago Steelers Fan ! >> >> -- >> Heidi Kunselman >> Technology Teacher >> Robotics Club Mentor >> T.I.L.T. Commitee Member >> Oak Prairie J.H. >> Will County School District 92 >> 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 >> >> *"Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." * >> -*Satya Nadella* >> * CEO of Microsoft* >> _______________________________________________ >> alice-teachers mailing list >> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu >> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers > > > > -- > *Melanie Lam* | Director | The Alice Project > *Entertainment Technology Center | Carnegie Mellon University* > | 415 608 4033 | melanielam at cmu.edu > _______________________________________________ > alice-teachers mailing list > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -- Heidi Kunselman Technology Teacher Robotics Club Mentor T.I.L.T. Commitee Member Oak Prairie J.H. Will County School District 92 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 *"Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." * -*Satya Nadella* * CEO of Microsoft* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vanderhyde at sxu.edu Tue Apr 2 13:25:40 2024 From: vanderhyde at sxu.edu (Vanderhyde, James) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:25:40 +0000 Subject: alice-teacher sonoma HELP ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75D3A227-3802-4CB3-9DA4-1D54318B9C6D@sxu.edu> I upgraded to an M1 Mac a few weeks ago, and I haven?t seen any new problems with Alice 3. I am running 3.8. Many students in my class, across all platforms, have seen a freeze in Alice 3.8 that wasn?t present in older versions. It seems associated with switching to the Move tool. It has been hard to reproduce, so I haven?t reported it yet. It freezes for several seconds, up to a minute or more, and then recovers and starts working again. It feels like a memory leak, but I don?t know what it is. I don?t think it?s the same thing Heidi is describing, because it started in version 3.8. James ? James Vanderhyde Associate Professor Computer Science Saint Xavier University 3700 W. 103rd St. Chicago, IL 60655 773-298-3454 vanderhyde at sxu.edu sxu.edu On Apr 2, 2024, at 8:16?AM, Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers wrote: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Melanie, Thanks so much for responding so fast. You guys are awesome. We will try the new version first. Just wondering....has anyone else written in about this issue? I know that rosetta was a problem in previous Mac OS versions. Is this still the case? Thanks Again Heidi On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 10:25?PM Melanie Lam > wrote: Heidi, Sorry to hear you?re running into Alice issues. Is there a reason you?re on Alice 3.6 instead of the latest version of Alice 3.8? I?m not sure it solves the problems but it would be the first thing to try? Thanks, Melanie On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:12?PM Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers > wrote: Hello everyone I have been using alice for 12 years with my middle school students and would like to continue teaching my students with this wonderful tool. We were having issues running Alice 2 so we moved to Alice 3.6. I have a M1 mac book with the Sonoma 14.3 and cannot get alice to run.It keeps freezing and I have to force quit. It is also giving me a rendering error due to performance issues when I select run. If I can't find a solution the Alice program will be pulled. My new tech dept has limited exposure to working with Macs so it's been a struggle. Please help..... Thanks Heidi Kunselman Your Chicago Steelers Fan ! -- Heidi Kunselman Technology Teacher Robotics Club Mentor T.I.L.T. Commitee Member Oak Prairie J.H. Will County School District 92 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 "Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." -Satya Nadella CEO of Microsoft _______________________________________________ alice-teachers mailing list alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu To change settings or unsubscribe visit: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -- Melanie Lam | Director | The Alice Project Entertainment Technology Center | Carnegie Mellon University | 415 608 4033 | melanielam at cmu.edu _______________________________________________ alice-teachers mailing list alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu To change settings or unsubscribe visit: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -- Heidi Kunselman Technology Teacher Robotics Club Mentor T.I.L.T. Commitee Member Oak Prairie J.H. Will County School District 92 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 "Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." -Satya Nadella CEO of Microsoft _______________________________________________ alice-teachers mailing list alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu To change settings or unsubscribe visit: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org Tue Apr 2 14:02:01 2024 From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 13:02:01 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher sonoma HELP ! In-Reply-To: <75D3A227-3802-4CB3-9DA4-1D54318B9C6D@sxu.edu> References: <75D3A227-3802-4CB3-9DA4-1D54318B9C6D@sxu.edu> Message-ID: James, Is it possible that the issue you are describing is related to a particular model that is either new in Alice 3.8 or modified in Alice 3.8? I've found some models have issues that create weird problems that can occur if an instance of the model is present in a program. Bill On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:35?PM Vanderhyde, James wrote: > I upgraded to an M1 Mac a few weeks ago, and I haven?t seen any new > problems with Alice 3. I am running 3.8. > > Many students in my class, across all platforms, have seen a freeze in > Alice 3.8 that wasn?t present in older versions. It seems associated with > switching to the Move tool. It has been hard to reproduce, so I haven?t > reported it yet. It freezes for several seconds, up to a minute or more, > and then recovers and starts working again. It feels like a memory leak, > but I don?t know what it is. I don?t think it?s the same thing Heidi is > describing, because it started in version 3.8. > > James > ? > > *James Vanderhyde *Associate Professor > Computer Science > Saint Xavier University > 3700 W. 103rd St. > Chicago, IL 60655 > 773-298-3454 > vanderhyde at sxu.edu > sxu.edu > > On Apr 2, 2024, at 8:16?AM, Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers < > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > *[EXTERNAL EMAIL]* CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the > organization. > Melanie, > Thanks so much for responding so fast. You guys are awesome. We will try > the new version first. Just wondering....has anyone else written in about > this issue? I know that rosetta was a problem in previous Mac OS versions. > Is this still the case? > Thanks Again > Heidi > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 10:25?PM Melanie Lam wrote: > >> Heidi, >> >> Sorry to hear you?re running into Alice issues. >> >> Is there a reason you?re on Alice 3.6 instead of the latest version of >> Alice 3.8? I?m not sure it solves the problems but it would be the first >> thing to try? >> >> Thanks, >> Melanie >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:12?PM Heidi Kunselman via alice-teachers < >> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello everyone >>> I have been using alice for 12 years with my middle school students and >>> would like to continue teaching my students with this wonderful tool. We >>> were having issues running Alice 2 so we moved to Alice 3.6. I have a M1 >>> mac book with the Sonoma 14.3 and cannot get alice to run.It keeps freezing >>> and I have to force quit. It is also giving me a rendering error due to >>> performance issues when I select run. If I can't find a solution the Alice >>> program will be pulled. My new tech dept has limited exposure to working >>> with Macs so it's been a struggle. Please help..... >>> Thanks >>> Heidi Kunselman >>> Your Chicago Steelers Fan ! >>> >>> -- >>> Heidi Kunselman >>> Technology Teacher >>> Robotics Club Mentor >>> T.I.L.T. Commitee Member >>> Oak Prairie J.H. >>> Will County School District 92 >>> 815-836-2724 ext. 3248 >>> >>> *"Computer science empowers students to create the world of tomorrow." * >>> -*Satya Nadella* >>> * CEO of Microsoft* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> alice-teachers mailing list >>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu >>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers >> >> >> >> -- >> *Melanie Lam* | Director | The Alice Project >> *Entertainment Technology Center | Carnegie Mellon University* >> | 415 608 4033 | melanielam at cmu.edu >> _______________________________________________ >> alice-teachers mailing list >> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu >> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers > > > > -- > Heidi Kunselman > Technology Teacher > Robotics Club Mentor > T.I.L.T. 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