alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
Ziccardi, Adam
aziccardi at opschools.org
Wed Feb 2 10:22:57 EST 2022
Thank you for the feedback.
@Matjaz these students are 14-17 year olds, no formal programming
experience.
@Bill I am intimidated by YouTube but will try. Your online academy is
truly awesome.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 9:01 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Adam,
>
> These are awesome.
>
> Have you considered posting this on YouTube and/or tweeting a link out?
>
> Bill
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:43 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
>> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
>> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
>> anticipated continuing help and support.
>> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage :
>> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
>> AZ
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>>> network. The cord works well too (unsecured wifi at school).
>>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
>>> get something started.
>>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>>> Have a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
>>> email chain.
>>> Adam Z
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>>> onboard :(
>>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top
>>>>> of the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or
>>>>> some such...
>>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the
>>>>>>> Alice Player.
>>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the
>>>>>>> headset that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the
>>>>>>> headset.
>>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of
>>>>>>> January. If not, sooner.
>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn’t
>>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>>> link cord. I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>>> 2. Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>>>> 3. The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for
>>>>>>>>> recommendations with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People
>>>>>>>>> there may try to push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need
>>>>>>>>> anything fancy as long as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr. It can however run
>>>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop. This cord
>>>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component. If you
>>>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>>>> will power it. It is not an application that you need to purchase. If you
>>>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Oculus link: To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install
>>>>>>>>> the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset
>>>>>>>>> using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop. If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>>> > > Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the
>>>>>>>>> Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>>> properly running. It is key that the Oculus base application is running
>>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > • Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>>> > > OPTA president
>>>>>>>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>>> > > Teacher Webpage
>>>>>>>>> > >
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>> OPTA president
>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>> 716-209-6482
>>> OPTA president
>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Adam Ziccardi
>> 716-209-6482
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>> K-12 CS coordinator
>> NYS Master Teacher
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