alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2

Matjaz Marussig marussig at siol.net
Wed Feb 2 08:55:58 EST 2022


Adam, what age of students is this?
I'm asking from EU convincing teachers 😊
Thanks
Matjaz


On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 14:45, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:

> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
> anticipated continuing help and support.
> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
> AZ
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
>> get something started.
>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
>> email chain.
>> Adam Z
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>
>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>> onboard :(
>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>>>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>>>> such...
>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>> Adam Z
>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>>>> Player.
>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn’t
>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run
>>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord
>>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >       • Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>> > > OPTA president
>>>>>>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>> > > Teacher Webpage
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>>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
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>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>> OPTA president
>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>> 716-209-6482
>>> OPTA president
>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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>> Adam Ziccardi
>> 716-209-6482
>> OPTA president
>> K-12 CS coordinator
>> NYS Master Teacher
>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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