From aziccardi at opschools.org  Wed Feb  2 07:44:24 2022
From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 07:44:24 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
anticipated continuing help and support.
Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
AZ

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
> Latest developments throw me an exception w
> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
> get something started.
> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
> email chain.
> Adam Z
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>
>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>> onboard :(
>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>>> such...
>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our
>>> school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>> Adam Z
>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adam,
>>>>
>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>> .
>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left
>>>>> of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>>> Player.
>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy
>>>>> it if ever needed)
>>>>>
>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> www.avast.com
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>>>>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how
>>>>>>> the experience is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run
>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord
>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>>>>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>>> > > OPTA president
>>>>>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>> > > Teacher Webpage
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
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>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>> 716-209-6482
>>> OPTA president
>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Adam Ziccardi
>> 716-209-6482
>> OPTA president
>> K-12 CS coordinator
>> NYS Master Teacher
>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Adam Ziccardi
> 716-209-6482
> OPTA president
> K-12 CS coordinator
> NYS Master Teacher
> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>
>

-- 
Adam Ziccardi
716-209-6482
OPTA president
K-12 CS coordinator
NYS Master Teacher
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Wed Feb  2 08:50:19 2022
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 07:50:19 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Adam,

These are awesome.

Have you considered posting this on YouTube and/or tweeting a link out?

Bill

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:43 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
> anticipated continuing help and support.
> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
> AZ
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
>> get something started.
>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
>> email chain.
>> Adam Z
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>
>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>> onboard :(
>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>>>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>>>> such...
>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>> Adam Z
>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>>>> Player.
>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run
>>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord
>>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > --
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>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
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>>>>>> 716-209-6482
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From: marussig at siol.net (Matjaz Marussig)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:55:58 +0100
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Adam, what age of students is this?
I'm asking from EU convincing teachers ?
Thanks
Matjaz


On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 at 14:45, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:

> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
> anticipated continuing help and support.
> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
> AZ
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
>> get something started.
>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
>> email chain.
>> Adam Z
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>
>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>> onboard :(
>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>>>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>>>> such...
>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>> Adam Z
>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>>>> Player.
>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run
>>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord
>>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > --
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>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
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From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:22:57 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Thank you for the feedback.
@Matjaz these students are 14-17 year olds, no formal programming
experience.
@Bill I am intimidated by YouTube but will try. Your online academy is
truly awesome.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 9:01 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> These are awesome.
>
> Have you considered posting this on YouTube and/or tweeting a link out?
>
> Bill
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:43 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
>> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
>> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help and
>> anticipated continuing help and support.
>> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
>> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
>> AZ
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>>> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
>>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
>>> get something started.
>>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>>> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
>>> email chain.
>>> Adam Z
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>>> onboard :(
>>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top
>>>>> of the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or
>>>>> some such...
>>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems
>>>>>>> to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the
>>>>>>> Alice Player.
>>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the
>>>>>>> headset that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the
>>>>>>> headset.
>>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of
>>>>>>> January. If not, sooner.
>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to
>>>>>>>>> do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>>>>> article)
>>>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used
>>>>>>>>> as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for
>>>>>>>>> recommendations with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People
>>>>>>>>> there may try to push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need
>>>>>>>>> anything fancy as long as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run
>>>>>>>>> as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord
>>>>>>>>> can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with
>>>>>>>>> it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install
>>>>>>>>> the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset
>>>>>>>>> using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the
>>>>>>>>> Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>>> > > OPTA president
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>>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
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>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
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>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>> OPTA president
>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
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>>> 716-209-6482
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>>> NYS Master Teacher
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From melanielam at cmu.edu  Wed Feb  2 11:12:54 2022
From: melanielam at cmu.edu (Melanie Lam)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:12:54 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Adam,

Thanks for sharing this compilation of student VR worlds.
It's great to see how much they can accomplish in a semester on a new
platform.

Would be interested in hearing about any challenges students may have
encountered or features they wished they had.  We have some things in the
pipeline to support Quest 2, untethered soon.

best,
Melanie

Director
Alice Project


On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:42 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> Thank you for the feedback.
> @Matjaz these students are 14-17 year olds, no formal programming
> experience.
> @Bill I am intimidated by YouTube but will try. Your online academy is
> truly awesome.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 9:01 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Adam,
>>
>> These are awesome.
>>
>> Have you considered posting this on YouTube and/or tweeting a link out?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:43 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning. Last week was the end of the semester here in NYS.
>>> A sampling of the VR projects made it into video content.
>>> We're all down the rabbit hole here now thank you for everyone's help
>>> and anticipated continuing help and support.
>>> Video is posted on top of my teacher webpage  :
>>> https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958
>>> AZ
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
>>>> network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
>>>> Latest developments throw me an exception w
>>>> <http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever
>>>> there is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
>>>> We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well
>>>> to get something started.
>>>> Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
>>>> Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off
>>>> the email chain.
>>>> Adam Z
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>>>>>> onboard :(
>>>>>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top
>>>>>> of the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or
>>>>>> some such...
>>>>>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into
>>>>>> our school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time,
>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>>>>>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>>>>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that
>>>>>>>> seems to handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>>>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently
>>>>>>>> 4954 Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>>>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus
>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>>>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>>>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>>>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the
>>>>>>>> left of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>>>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>>>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the
>>>>>>>> Alice Player.
>>>>>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>>>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the
>>>>>>>> headset that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the
>>>>>>>> headset.
>>>>>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting
>>>>>>>> really close at the movie theater.
>>>>>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could
>>>>>>>> re-buy it if ever needed)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had
>>>>>>>> to uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>>>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>>>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>>>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>>>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>>>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of
>>>>>>>> January. If not, sooner.
>>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what
>>>>>>>>> transpires!
>>>>>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop
>>>>>>>>>> VR (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used
>>>>>>>>>> to do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the
>>>>>>>>>> linked article)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be
>>>>>>>>>> used as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem
>>>>>>>>>> to support that view)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and
>>>>>>>>>> how the experience is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers
>>>>>>>>>> <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a
>>>>>>>>>> compatible computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for
>>>>>>>>>> recommendations with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People
>>>>>>>>>> there may try to push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need
>>>>>>>>>> anything fancy as long as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be
>>>>>>>>>> as helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <
>>>>>>>>>> ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however
>>>>>>>>>> run as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This
>>>>>>>>>> cord can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes
>>>>>>>>>> with it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If
>>>>>>>>>> you have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application
>>>>>>>>>> that will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.
>>>>>>>>>> If you look at this page you will see the download software button
>>>>>>>>>> associated with the section:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install
>>>>>>>>>> the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset
>>>>>>>>>> using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it
>>>>>>>>>> currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and
>>>>>>>>>> you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this
>>>>>>>>>> application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the
>>>>>>>>>> headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2).
>>>>>>>>>> It's all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice
>>>>>>>>>> Player screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the
>>>>>>>>>> Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is
>>>>>>>>>> the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments
>>>>>>>>>> again. Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>>>> > > OPTA president
>>>>>>>>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>>>> > > Teacher Webpage
>>>>>>>>>> > >
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>>>>>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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>>>>>>>> 716-209-6482
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>>>>>> 716-209-6482
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>>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
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>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
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>>>> 716-209-6482
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From melanielam at cmu.edu  Fri Feb  4 19:23:17 2022
From: melanielam at cmu.edu (Melanie Lam)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 16:23:17 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher Alice Player for standalone VR
Message-ID: <CAAuKJEHqfO+BShCv5QSp8jE01+B3ys7JeXu81-9QQQRC9uZE+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi teachers,

We're getting ready to put out a beta version of an *Alice Player APK* that
will enable you to run Alice 3 worlds untethered on a Quest by sideloading
the worlds from a Mac or PC.  The big win is it will no longer require a
hefty VR-ready computer to run making it more attainable for schools.

If you are already using Quest/Quest 2 and would like to participate in
early beta testing  - please reach out.

If you haven't yet ventured into VR, you can install the Alice Player
directly on any computer as a way to share and run student worlds easily.

We look forward to hearing from you.

best,
-Melanie

Director of The Alice Project CMU
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From djslater107 at mac.com  Sun Feb  6 13:49:45 2022
From: djslater107 at mac.com (Donald Slater)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 13:49:45 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice Player for standalone VR
In-Reply-To: <CAAuKJEHqfO+BShCv5QSp8jE01+B3ys7JeXu81-9QQQRC9uZE+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAuKJEHqfO+BShCv5QSp8jE01+B3ys7JeXu81-9QQQRC9uZE+A@mail.gmail.com>
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Meanie,
I will be interested in the early beta testing?

I hope you are well,
Don Slater


> On Feb 4, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Melanie Lam <melanielam at cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi teachers,
> 
> We're getting ready to put out a beta version of an Alice Player APK that will enable you to run Alice 3 worlds untethered on a Quest by sideloading the worlds from a Mac or PC.  The big win is it will no longer require a hefty VR-ready computer to run making it more attainable for schools.
> 
> If you are already using Quest/Quest 2 and would like to participate in early beta testing  - please reach out. 
> 
> If you haven't yet ventured into VR, you can install the Alice Player directly on any computer as a way to share and run student worlds easily.
> 
> We look forward to hearing from you.
> 
> best,
> -Melanie
> 
> Director of The Alice Project CMU
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