From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org Sat Nov 13 12:17:47 2021 From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 11:17:47 -0600 Subject: alice-teacher Alice Project Questions Message-ID: Hey all, I'm working on a video showing off some of my students' work in Alice 3. I want to make sure that I describe Alice 3 correctly. I know that the Alice Project is at Carnegie Mellon University. Is it part of a particular program and/or department and/or school? Also, when I tweet about Alice, I tag @AliceProjectCMU but is it also OK to tag the other related program and/or department and/or school? Thanks, Bill -- This e-mail message contains information that may be?confidential and is the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School District 205.? It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed.? 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URL: From dabeshou at andrew.cmu.edu Mon Nov 22 08:57:04 2021 From: dabeshou at andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Abeshouse) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 08:57:04 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, Thanks for sharing this. It is great to see the success your students are having with Alice in VR! (I don't have any suggestions for the video, just wanted to say how nice it is to see.) -Daniel Abeshouse On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students wrote > and tested out on the Oculus headset. > > If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of > the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded > but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. > > https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk > > Thanks, > Bill > > This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is > the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School > District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are > not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or > use this message or any part thereof. If you have received this message in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this > message. Any communication sent or received by District 205 is a public > record and may be subject to inspection or copying under the Illinois > Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). > _______________________________________________ > alice-teachers mailing list > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers -- Daniel Abeshouse Alice Project Carnegie Mellon University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aziccardi at opschools.org Mon Nov 22 08:07:01 2021 From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 08:07:01 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Bill, I like the video with the students doing stuff. Well done. We're going down the same rabbit hole. See you there! AZ On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Hey all, > > I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students wrote > and tested out on the Oculus headset. > > If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of > the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded > but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. > > https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk > > > Thanks, > Bill > > This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is > the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School > District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are > not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or > use this message or any part thereof. 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URL: From mstolard at gmail.com Mon Nov 22 09:12:03 2021 From: mstolard at gmail.com (M Stolard) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 08:12:03 -0600 Subject: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The video looks great. You have some talented students. -Masudi On Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 7:58 AM Daniel Abeshouse wrote: > Bill, > Thanks for sharing this. It is great to see the success your students are > having with Alice in VR! > (I don't have any suggestions for the video, just wanted to say how nice > it is to see.) > > -Daniel Abeshouse > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students >> wrote and tested out on the Oculus headset. >> >> If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. >> >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School >> District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are >> not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or >> use this message or any part thereof. If you have received this message in >> error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this >> message. 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Most of >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. >> >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School >> District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you >> are >> not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or >> use this message or any part thereof. If you have received this message >> in >> error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this >> message. Any communication sent or received by District 205 is a public >> record and may be subject to inspection or copying under the Illinois >> Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). >> ------------------------------ >> >> Spam >> >> Not spam >> >> Forget previous vote >> >> _______________________________________________ >> alice-teachers mailing list >> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu >> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >> >> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5hbmRyZXcuY211LmVkdS9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2FsaWNlLXRlYWNoZXJz&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=3eca9856 > > > > -- > Adam Ziccardi > 716-209-6482 > OPTA president > K-12 CS coordinator > NYS Master Teacher > Teacher Webpage > From cbovell at nburlington.com Mon Nov 22 14:14:51 2021 From: cbovell at nburlington.com (Carlos Bovell) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 19:14:51 +0000 Subject: alice-teacher Which Oculus? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I was thinking of trying this out with our classes, but I'm not sure what technology I would need to get. I guess I'd need one of these "bundles"? https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Quest-Advanced-All-One-Virtual/dp/B09DCMWRKP?tag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=space-us-7112562456014038000-20&th=1 Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games www.amazon.com Thanks for taking my question. Carlos ________________________________ From: alice-teachers on behalf of Leonel Morales Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 9:58 AM To: Alice educators Subject: Re: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo CAUTION: This is email originated from outside of the organization. Please exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments, or providing personal information. Hi Bill, Thanks for sharing. I hadn't realized that for VR the programmer has to "make sure that their program looks good from any position in the world and any angle the user may turn their head". Good insight! Best, Leonel 2021-11-22 7:07 GMT-06:00, Ziccardi, Adam : > Hi Bill, > I like the video with the students doing stuff. Well done. > We're going down the same rabbit hole. See you there! > AZ > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students >> wrote >> and tested out on the Oculus headset. >> >> If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. >> >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk >> >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School >> District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you >> are >> not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or >> use this message or any part thereof. If you have received this message >> in >> error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this >> message. 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URL: From djslater107 at mac.com Tue Nov 23 07:52:14 2021 From: djslater107 at mac.com (Donald Slater) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:52:14 -0500 Subject: alice-teacher Which Oculus? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carlos, I believe that you will also need a link cable to connect the headset to the computer? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087JKBM6W/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_168?psc=1&pd_rd_plhdr=t&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEySlY2SFhBRUdYTjQyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE5NzY2MTgxWlVVSUYxMEVPVCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTA3MTM4MVE0VFRKVkszRjZTRyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNkX29uc2l0ZV9kZXNrdG9wJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== Don Slater Alice Project > On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Carlos Bovell via alice-teachers wrote: > > Hi, > > I was thinking of trying this out with our classes, but I'm not sure what technology I would need to get. I guess I'd need one of these "bundles"? > > https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Quest-Advanced-All-One-Virtual/dp/B09DCMWRKP?tag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=space-us-7112562456014038000-20&th=1 > Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > Amazon.com : Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > www.amazon.com > > Thanks for taking my question. > > Carlos > > From: alice-teachers > on behalf of Leonel Morales > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 9:58 AM > To: Alice educators > > Subject: Re: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo > > CAUTION: This is email originated from outside of the organization. Please exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments, or providing personal information. > > > > Hi Bill, > > Thanks for sharing. I hadn't realized that for VR the programmer has > to "make sure that their program looks good from any position in the > world and any angle the user may turn their head". Good insight! > > Best, > > Leonel > > 2021-11-22 7:07 GMT-06:00, Ziccardi, Adam >: > > Hi Bill, > > I like the video with the students doing stuff. Well done. > > We're going down the same rabbit hole. See you there! > > AZ > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < > > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu > wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students > >> wrote > >> and tested out on the Oculus headset. > >> > >> If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of > >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded > >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. > >> > >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk > >> > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > >> > >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is > >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School > >> District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is > >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you > >> are > >> not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or > >> use this message or any part thereof. If you have received this message > >> in > >> error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this > >> message. 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Bill On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 6:54 AM Donald Slater via alice-teachers < alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Carlos, > I believe that you will also need a link cable to connect the headset to > the computer? > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087JKBM6W/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_168?psc=1&pd_rd_plhdr=t&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEySlY2SFhBRUdYTjQyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE5NzY2MTgxWlVVSUYxMEVPVCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTA3MTM4MVE0VFRKVkszRjZTRyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNkX29uc2l0ZV9kZXNrdG9wJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== > > Don Slater > Alice Project > > On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Carlos Bovell via alice-teachers < > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > Hi, > > I was thinking of trying this out with our classes, but I'm not sure what > technology I would need to get. I guess I'd need one of these "bundles"? > > > https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Quest-Advanced-All-One-Virtual/dp/B09DCMWRKP?tag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=space-us-7112562456014038000-20&th=1 > Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? > 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > > Amazon.com : Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One > Virtual Reality Headset ? 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > www.amazon.com > > > Thanks for taking my question. > > Carlos > > ------------------------------ > *From:* alice-teachers < > alice-teachers-bounces+cbovell=nburlington.com at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on > behalf of Leonel Morales > *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 9:58 AM > *To:* Alice educators > *Subject:* Re: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo > > CAUTION: This is email originated from outside of the organization. > Please exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments, or > providing personal information. > > > > Hi Bill, > > Thanks for sharing. I hadn't realized that for VR the programmer has > to "make sure that their program looks good from any position in the > world and any angle the user may turn their head". Good insight! > > Best, > > Leonel > > 2021-11-22 7:07 GMT-06:00, Ziccardi, Adam : > > Hi Bill, > > I like the video with the students doing stuff. Well done. > > We're going down the same rabbit hole. See you there! > > AZ > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < > > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students > >> wrote > >> and tested out on the Oculus headset. > >> > >> If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of > >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded > >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. > >> > >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk > >> < > https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9NbmVmb1R6UlJsaw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=e4c592f1 > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > >> > >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is > >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School > >> District 205. 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Would I need to purchase this software as well? https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2017050365004772/ [https://scontent.oculuscdn.com/v/t64.5771-25/q92/s720x720/57570292_582843569413631_2078041020076236386_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=79b88e&_nc_ohc=zJxWUxJQm74AX-_qPqt&_nc_ht=scontent.oculuscdn.com&oh=3f4c3ecb69280efaa5dd413b36da89dd&oe=619FACEF] Virtual Desktop on Oculus Quest | Oculus Connect wirelessly to your computer(s) to watch movies, browse the web, play 2D games or stream PCVR games. Virtual Desktop is a highly optimized, native application developed for low latency, high quality streaming. ? Connect up to 4 computers (Windows 10 or macOS Mojave) ? PCVR game streaming requires a VR Ready PC running Windows 10 ? Supports Bluetooth mice, keyboards and gamepads ... www.oculus.com Carlos ________________________________ From: alice-teachers on behalf of Barnum, William via alice-teachers Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:13 AM To: Alice educators Cc: Daniel Abeshouse ; Eric Brown ; Melanie Lam Subject: Re: alice-teacher Which Oculus? CAUTION: This is email originated from outside of the organization. Please exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments, or providing personal information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From melissajrobin at gmail.com Tue Nov 23 15:00:59 2021 From: melissajrobin at gmail.com (M Rosen) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:00:59 -0600 Subject: alice-teacher Which Oculus? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you please tell me how to get my Alice programs on the Oculus? I'd love to have my students experience that. Thank you much, Melissa On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 1:43 PM Carlos Bovell via alice-teachers < alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking of trying this out with our classes, but I'm not sure what > technology I would need to get. I guess I'd need one of these "bundles"? > > > https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Quest-Advanced-All-One-Virtual/dp/B09DCMWRKP?tag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=space-us-7112562456014038000-20&th=1 > Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? > 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > > Amazon.com: Oculus Quest 2 ? Advanced All-In-One Virtual Reality Headset ? > 128 GB with Carrying Case : Video Games > www.amazon.com > > > Thanks for taking my question. > > Carlos > > ------------------------------ > *From:* alice-teachers nburlington.com at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> on behalf of Leonel Morales < > litomd at gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 9:58 AM > *To:* Alice educators > *Subject:* Re: alice-teacher Looking For Feedback On Oculus Video Demo > > CAUTION: This is email originated from outside of the organization. > Please exercise caution when clicking links, opening attachments, or > providing personal information. > > > > Hi Bill, > > Thanks for sharing. I hadn't realized that for VR the programmer has > to "make sure that their program looks good from any position in the > world and any angle the user may turn their head". Good insight! > > Best, > > Leonel > > 2021-11-22 7:07 GMT-06:00, Ziccardi, Adam : > > Hi Bill, > > I like the video with the students doing stuff. Well done. > > We're going down the same rabbit hole. See you there! > > AZ > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 11:25 PM Barnum, William via alice-teachers < > > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> I've put together a demo of some of the Alice 3 projects my students > >> wrote > >> and tested out on the Oculus headset. > >> > >> If you have a minute, I'd love any feedback for a final version. Most of > >> the video was recorded a while back, so it couldn't easily be rerecorded > >> but could be reedited, or the voiceover could be changed. > >> > >> https://youtu.be/MnefoTzRRlk > >> < > https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9NbmVmb1R6UlJsaw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=e4c592f1 > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > >> > >> This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is > >> the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School > >> District 205. 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URL: From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org Tue Nov 30 12:25:16 2021 From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:25:16 -0600 Subject: alice-teacher Final Alice VR Demo Video and Lessons Learned Message-ID: Hey all, Thanks so much for the feedback on the draft video of the Alice VR program demos! I wanted to share a few things I learned from my experience: 1. When I first imported a student project into VR, I was disappointed. It seemed less realistic. One student had created a neat narrative that depended on tight camera angles that focused on only what she wanted the viewer to see. It ruined the illusion when I could swivel my head to control the view because it didn't look right from different angles. It was kind of like if your favorite TV show turned the camera 5 degrees, and you could see the wood holding up the fake walls to the fake room. I realized that we needed to consider all possible camera angles when designing worlds. 2. The Alice Unity player doesn't work exactly the same as the desktop Alice player. In some cases, sloppy or processor-intensive code which didn't cause problems on the desktop player caused issues with the Unity player. I didn't realize that until students tried out their worlds, and we had to troubleshoot on the fly. Doing it again, I will install the Alice Unity player on each student's desktop and have them try their programs out ahead of time without VR goggles. That way, we can work out the bugs before we try it with the VR headset. 3. I've tweeted out the final version of the video. Any likes, comments, or retweets on the tweet would be humbly appreciated. ? https://twitter.com/Bill_Barnum/status/1465351712386871298?s=20 Bill -- This e-mail message contains information that may be?confidential and is the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School District 205.? It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed.? 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We were very excited about this new functionality and the timing of its release just as learning went remote and access to hardware for students was more challenging was unfortunate. I can?t wait to see what the students come up with. I wanted to chime in on a couple of the different conversations and questions recently raised: 1. Alice and the quest - I have tested with my quest and the link cord and successfully ran worlds in the headset using the Alice desktop player (I have a quest 1 so assume it will work for the 2 but if anyone does in fact truly validate that we would love to hear). We do have designs for other ways to do this in the future including enabling students to create their own apks and side load them into the quest (or even in a browser in the headset) and longer term a published Alice app and web portal to allow students to upload their worlds and then download them into the quest app. We will definitely update on these projects as we explore the best paths forward to support stand alone VR like the quest. 2. Bill this analogy of seeing behind the set is a good one and definitely exposes the issues related to designing (or porting your existing world) for 360 and for a world where you can?t control the players view (or shouldn?t because programming camera moves and forcing the player's view can be jarring in VR). We will take a look at our Alice VR lesson and add more specific content related to this issue. If you haven?t taken a look at the VR lesson you can view it here: http://www.alice.org/resources/lessons/design-process-virtual-reality/ As you all start to work more in this space we welcome feedback on things that would be helpful to students so that we can add them top the lesson. 3. As Bill has found there are differences in how the Alice Player runs and the player in the Alice IDE. Definitely let us know and share any worlds that break in this transition. In most cases we have found that the Unity player actually functions better and smoother than the Alice IDE and has enabled us to improve the graphics (such as adding shadows etc). Again as more of you explore the player and the VR don?t hesitate to share issues and worlds. In many cases we can only QA so much and students will code patterns and projects that we didn?t even imagine for testing. We also have new designs for both the Alice IDE interface and player controls (vr preview) in the unity player that will make the desktop testing of worlds designed for VR easier. Students will then have more flexibility to test on the desktop before moving to the headset (things like more visual references to the camera and vr space in the scene editor to separate key inputs to allow camera turns in the player when previewing VR). Again we will definitely let you all know as we move these improvements forward and please let us know if there are specific functionalities that your students are craving or issues they are facing when building for VR. Very Exciting! Sincerely, Eric PS We liked and retweeted you Bill! Thank you so much for sharing out your great work so that hopefully others can find and use Alice! > On Nov 30, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers wrote: > > Hey all, > > Thanks so much for the feedback on the draft video of the Alice VR program demos! > > I wanted to share a few things I learned from my experience: > > 1. When I first imported a student project into VR, I was disappointed. It seemed less realistic. One student had created a neat narrative that depended on tight camera angles that focused on only what she wanted the viewer to see. It ruined the illusion when I could swivel my head to control the view because it didn't look right from different angles. It was kind of like if your favorite TV show turned the camera 5 degrees, and you could see the wood holding up the fake walls to the fake room. I realized that we needed to consider all possible camera angles when designing worlds. > > 2. The Alice Unity player doesn't work exactly the same as the desktop Alice player. In some cases, sloppy or processor-intensive code which didn't cause problems on the desktop player caused issues with the Unity player. I didn't realize that until students tried out their worlds, and we had to troubleshoot on the fly. Doing it again, I will install the Alice Unity player on each student's desktop and have them try their programs out ahead of time without VR goggles. That way, we can work out the bugs before we try it with the VR headset. > > 3. I've tweeted out the final version of the video. Any likes, comments, or retweets on the tweet would be humbly appreciated. ? > https://twitter.com/Bill_Barnum/status/1465351712386871298?s=20 > > Bill > > This e-mail message contains information that may be confidential and is the property of the Board of Education of Elmhurst Community Unit School District 205. It is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. 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