alice-teacher Alice 2 & Apple M1 Silicon

[Eric Brown]

Dear All,

We did more testing on this and while Alice 3 does prompt you to install rosetta while it seems that Alice 2 does not (it doesn’t recognize it as an intel application - we are working on this).  If you have not run another application on the machine that has previously given you this prompt you will need to install Rosetta yourself before Alice 2 will run.  Here is an article that discusses installing Rosetta:

https://osxdaily.com/2020/12/04/how-install-rosetta-2-apple-silicon-mac/

You can use Alice 3 as an app that will cause the pop-up or follow the directions to do it via command line.  

We are definitely going to look into what we need to do to make our apps work natively in the future but do not have a fix in the works at the moment.  There has been some rumor that a future OS update may remove Rosetta and we are hoping that they don’t do this to allow developers more time to address this issue.

Sincerely,

Eric


> On Mar 23, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Alexis et al,
> 
> We have tested both Alice 3 and Alice 2 on a MacBook Air 13 inch (M1, 2020) and have them both successfully running.  In our test we did accept the Rosetta install when we first ran the Alice 3 installer (Alice 3 was the first application we installed and then where not prompted when running Alice 3 or installing or running Alice 2 after that).  We unfortunately didn’t test rejecting that prompt and then testing and seeing what would would happen without Rosetta installed or how to install it after that prompt (not sure if once you reject it once if you will not be prompted again in the future from other attempts or if you will have to follow directions that can be found online for installing).  It is also possible that the Alice 3 installer prompted the installation of Rosetta and that Alice 2 does not have the same forcing function (would love to hear more from the community).
> 
> That being said we have heard from other people that they ran into issues and were unable to run Alice but have been unable to get enough information from them to understand where in the process it is failing.  As with on other Macs changes to security settings can be an issue that does not allow the application to install/run (we are working with CMU to get our App signed so it will be trusted but have not completed that work yet).  You will need to right click to open the installers and select open to be able to run them the first time (this should be showing up as the not trusted pop-up).  Improper permissions can be experienced as either the application not running or launching and then not progressing past the splash screen (If this is a new version of that problem we may need help determining where and under what privileges the app is being installed and run that is causing the issue).
> 
> If you have had issues installing or running Alice on an M1 chip Apple please do reach out to us with any information you can supply us namely:
> 
> 1.  Were you prompted to install rosetta and if so did you?  (unfortunately I have not found any easy way to check if you have installed rosetta at this time)
> 2.  Were you able to run the installer (the .dmg) and is the app currently in your application folder?
> 3.  Did you try right clicking to open the installer or application?
> 4.  Please tell us where in the process you are failing and how (if possible)
> 5.  Is there any other information unique to your configuration?  Are you installing/running as admin or some other user profile with different permissions?
> 
> You can respond and share here or feel free to reach out to me directly.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Brown, Alexis D. <abrown9 at ccbcmd.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone –
>> Does anyone have info on Alice 2 compatibility with the new Apple processors?  Or plans to make is compatible, even via Rosetta 2?
>> 
>> It doesn’t currently appear to work.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alexis
>> 
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