alice-teacher Help! Alice being replaced by Python in my intro classes

Garth Flint gflint at mcsmt.org
Wed Mar 10 13:35:17 EST 2021


What he said. The only reason I do python is it is the intro language for
my state universities. There are several other good "advanced " languages.
I teach Python and Unity (C#) because the kids get dual credit and the
languages are commonly used.

Garth Flint

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 10:57 Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Carlos,
>
> I'm actually much better at argument than programming, so this is my kind
> of question. 😃
>
> My guess is your administrator, like most administrators probably doesn't
> know much about programming.Probably someone convinced him/her that Python
> is more "real-world."
>
> I would encourage you to ask probing questions to understand his/her
> thought process and engage him/her in a problem-solving exercise.
>
> 1. Why Python as opposed to many other languages? What other languages
> should we consider, and how should we evaluate them?
> 2. In our introductory class, do you think the language-specific syntax is
> more important, or would you like us to focus on underlying programming
> concepts?
> 3. How important is student engagement in the introductory course?
> 4. How important are accessibility of curriculum and student diversity in
> the introductory course?
> 5. What disadvantages might there be in switching to a Python curriculum
> for Intro?
> 6. Are there other places in our course progression where Python might fit
> fell?
>
> I'd recommend doing mainly listening during the first meeting and
> schedule a follow-up appointment after you've learned his/her preferences
> and had a chance to do some research.
>
> If you'd like to talk off-list, feel free to send me an e-mail.
>
> Bill Barnum
> Computer Science Teacher
> York Community High School
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 9:07 AM Carlos Bovell <cbovell at nburlington.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Somebody has convinced my administrator that we should really be using
>> Python in our intro courses. I could use some reasons why Alice makes a
>> great alternative. Any and all arguments would be welcome!
>>
>> Carlos Bovell
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