From mmeijers at gmail.com  Mon Jan  4 16:14:05 2021
From: mmeijers at gmail.com (Margaret Meijers)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:14:05 +1100
Subject: alice-teacher Alice Use In Australia
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Hi Eric
I teach Alice in Australia.  I teach it as a stand-alone course, entirely
online, to 'gifted' students in grades 4 to 6 who attend schools across
Tasmania.  I have been doing this for many years and have found the
students really enjoy the challenge.  I would be happy to speak with any
other teachers who are interested.

Thanks
Marg Meijers

Gifted Online Teacher
Department of Education
Tasmania, Australia.

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 04:49, Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I hope this finds everyone doing well.  I wanted to reach out as we have a
> request from Australia with interest in adopting Alice.  They were
> wondering if we have any teachers there working with Alice that they could
> speak with.  We are still continuing to map out community as best we can
> but I did not have a ready answer for Australia though we know it is being
> used there from downloads and other interactions.  Is anyone on the list in
> Australia or aware of users/educators there that I could make an
> introduction to?
>
> They are also interested in working with Alice at the Middle School
> level.  If anyone of you would be willing to shoot me directly any Alice
> testimonials for that age range that I could share that would also be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Fri Jan 29 11:48:00 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:48:00 -0600
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Hey all,

I'm heartbroken.

My district's charitable foundation just bought me an Oculus Rift S and
workstation to use with Alice Programming.

Now my IT people tell me that I have to give it back because Illinois is
updating the SOPPA (student privacy)
<https://ltcillinois.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Student-Online-Personal-Protection-Act-SOPPA-Changes.pdf>
law and Facebook is not compliant.

This is a hail mary. Is there any way I can use the Rift S with Alice
without using Facebook. Is there some other option?

Is there anyone to talk to?

Thanks,
Bill Barnum
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From ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu  Fri Jan 29 13:18:38 2021
From: ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Brown)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 10:18:38 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher s post from wbarnum@elmhurst205.org requires
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Bill,

This is a good reminder that I have meant to reach out to people I know at facebook to hear their thoughts on this issue.  As of now you can elect not link it to a facebook account but they do say that will change within a year I believe.  I was strongly hoping they would roll back this requirement for this very reason or provide a different avenue for schools.  

I will also do some testing to see if there is a way to put the rift s in developer mode or some other work around to get content to the device.  I am curious if the required Oculus account that is required now is also not compliant?  It is a challenge because I believe the HTC Vive and others all also require an account for their device or steam etc to power them?

If anyone else has any input in this conversation I am very interested to hear.  I will let everyone know if I hear anything from people at Oculus or Facebook.

Sincerely,

Eric


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> 
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm heartbroken.
> 
> My district's charitable foundation just bought me an Oculus Rift S and workstation to use with Alice Programming.
> 
> Now my IT people tell me that I have to give it back because Illinois is updating the SOPPA (student privacy) law and Facebook is not compliant.
> 
> This is a hail mary. Is there any way I can use the Rift S with Alice without using Facebook. Is there some other option?
> 
> Is there anyone to talk to?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill Barnum
> 
> 
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