From vanderhyde at sxu.edu  Thu Feb  4 18:44:25 2021
From: vanderhyde at sxu.edu (Vanderhyde, James)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 23:44:25 +0000
Subject: alice-teacher Bug in vehicle property, joints, and setPersonResource
Message-ID: <0E27930E-C033-4255-91E8-99F9D9A26CE1@sxu.edu>

My student uncovered a bug in Alice 3 (3.6.0.1+build.500, confirmed both Windows and Mac). He was working on a homework assignment that I gave that is similar to ?Magnet Fun? from the Dann-Cooper-Pausch book. Here are the steps to reproduce the bug:
1. Create a new project.
2. Add an object (I used Mjolnir).
3. Add an adultPerson.
4. Set the vehicle of Mjolnir to the person?s wrist joint.
5. In myFirstMethod, call this.adultPerson.setAdultPersonResource with any look.
6. Run the project.
Mjolnir disappears.

See attached Alice project.
?
James Vanderhyde
Associate Professor and Department Chair
Computer Science
Saint Xavier University
3700 W. 103rd St.
Chicago, IL 60655
773-298-3454
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From ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu  Fri Feb  5 12:58:15 2021
From: ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Brown)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:58:15 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher Help Alice Learn More Languages
Message-ID: <8E8CFDE3-9A18-4652-AD8F-D5AB15C3495B@andrew.cmu.edu>

Dear Alice Community,

Alice has always been a platform used around the world (many of you are the very people that are helping bring Alice to the world) but we could do even better.  We have just migrated to a new translation platform that we hope will make it far easier for people to help us translate Alice into more languages making it even easier for people around the world to enjoy and learn using Alice.  I wanted to reach out to our community to try to enlist any of you (or people you know) to help volunteer in translating Alice 3.  

If you are interested or want something to share out to people in your network that you think could help give this a read:

http://www.alice.org/alice-needs-your-help-translating/ 

or jump straight here to find to how to get started:

https://github.com/TheAliceProject/alice3/wiki/Contributing-to-Translation-Efforts

And of course feel free to reach out directly to me if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Eric

From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Wed Feb 17 12:25:15 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 11:25:15 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher s post from wbarnum@elmhurst205.org requires
	approval
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Hey Eric,

Thanks so much for looking into this.

It looks like the IL SOPPA law is not quite as clear-cut as I was lead to
believe, but my district is leery due to Facebook's general privacy
practices. Despite this, I'm working hard to convince them that we need to
find some solution that doesn't involve throwing away all our district's
Oculus hardware.

My understanding is that the Oculus only accounts aren't explicitly
compliant but would probably slip by in many schools because the IL SOPPA
law isn't really written to apply to non-educational products and
companies. That being said, it is much easier to get a school or district
to sign on to a product if it is affirmatively compliant with typical
educational privacy policies.

Bill





On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 12:23 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> This is a good reminder that I have meant to reach out to people I know at
> facebook to hear their thoughts on this issue.  As of now you can elect not
> link it to a facebook account but they do say that will change within a
> year I believe.  I was strongly hoping they would roll back this
> requirement for this very reason or provide a different avenue for
> schools.
>
> I will also do some testing to see if there is a way to put the rift s in
> developer mode or some other work around to get content to the device.  I
> am curious if the required Oculus account that is required now is also not
> compliant?  It is a challenge because I believe the HTC Vive and others all
> also require an account for their device or steam etc to power them?
>
> If anyone else has any input in this conversation I am very interested to
> hear.  I will let everyone know if I hear anything from people at Oculus or
> Facebook.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 2021, at 8:48 AM, alice-teachers-owner at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> wrote:
> >
> > As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
> > following mailing list posting:
> >
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> >    From:    wbarnum at elmhurst205.org
> >    Subject: Illinois Student Privacy Rules and the Oculus Rift ?
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> >
> > At your convenience, visit:
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> > From: "Barnum, William" <wbarnum at elmhurst205.org>
> > Subject: Illinois Student Privacy Rules and the Oculus Rift ?
> > Date: January 29, 2021 at 8:48:00 AM PST
> > To: Alice educators <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>
> >
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm heartbroken.
> >
> > My district's charitable foundation just bought me an Oculus Rift S and
> workstation to use with Alice Programming.
> >
> > Now my IT people tell me that I have to give it back because Illinois is
> updating the SOPPA (student privacy) law and Facebook is not compliant.
> >
> > This is a hail mary. Is there any way I can use the Rift S with Alice
> without using Facebook. Is there some other option?
> >
> > Is there anyone to talk to?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Barnum
> >
> >
> >
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Tue Feb 23 22:15:44 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 21:15:44 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Populating A World With Trees
Message-ID: <CAMDLx6GJneEA4UcYiZbzeCOgYa80SCA8_Sfvi2Sk7BeQbqDWgA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey All,

Are there any shortcuts to populate a world with a bunch of scattered trees?

I have my character flying around and if the ground is bare, there isn't
much sense of movement.

Thanks,
Bill
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From vanderhyde at sxu.edu  Wed Feb 24 10:54:27 2021
From: vanderhyde at sxu.edu (Vanderhyde, James)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:54:27 +0000
Subject: alice-teacher Populating A World With Trees
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Bill, there is no way to programmatically add objects in Alice 2 or Alice 3, as far as I know.

I have entertained the idea of setting up a bunch of trees near the player?s starting point, and then using a program to move them to a new place as the player gets far away from them. This may or may not be easier than just creating a bunch of trees in the scene setup.

James
?
James Vanderhyde
Associate Professor and Department Chair
Computer Science
Saint Xavier University
3700 W. 103rd St.
Chicago, IL 60655
773-298-3454

On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:15 PM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:

Hey All,

Are there any shortcuts to populate a world with a bunch of scattered trees?

I have my character flying around and if the ground is bare, there isn't much sense of movement.

Thanks,
Bill
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From marussig at siol.net  Thu Feb 25 04:46:54 2021
From: marussig at siol.net (Matjaz Marussig)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:46:54 +0100
Subject: alice-teacher Populating A World With Trees
In-Reply-To: <89F71A55-4F4C-4158-A62D-208F6D0E4726@sxu.edu>
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We had an object library as a program (in a kind of Alice Github). Students
then open this program and remove unnecessary objects.

Matjaz

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On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 18:07, Vanderhyde, James <vanderhyde at sxu.edu> wrote:

> Bill, there is no way to programmatically add objects in Alice 2 or Alice
> 3, as far as I know.
>
> I have entertained the idea of setting up a bunch of trees near the
> player?s starting point, and then using a program to move them to a new
> place as the player gets far away from them. This may or may not be easier
> than just creating a bunch of trees in the scene setup.
>
> James
> ?
> James Vanderhyde
> Associate Professor and Department Chair
> Computer Science
> Saint Xavier University
> 3700 W. 103rd St.
> Chicago, IL 60655
> 773-298-3454
>
> On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:15 PM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> Are there any shortcuts to populate a world with a bunch of scattered
> trees?
>
> I have my character flying around and if the ground is bare, there isn't
> much sense of movement.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Fri Feb 26 13:42:08 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 12:42:08 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Populating A World With Trees
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Thanks for the information Matjaz and James.

What I ended up doing is I pointed the camera a the ground and set the y of
the camera to 225 because that was the highest I could go without losing
sight of the ground.

I placed some objects at specific coordinates for the border and then
filled in trees inside the area from a great height.

I also used the alt-drag method to quickly copy trees.

Bill

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:49 AM Matjaz Marussig <marussig at siol.net> wrote:

> We had an object library as a program (in a kind of Alice Github).
> Students then open this program and remove unnecessary objects.
>
> Matjaz
>
> ---
> Matjaz Marussig ME
> Independent Software Vendor, Oracle Full-stack Developer,
> DevOps Engineer
>
> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matjazmarussig
> Medium: https://medium.com/@matjazmarussig
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/MatjazMarussig
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> Office Email: marussig at siol.net
> Private Email: matjaz.marussig at gmail.com
> www: http://marussig.si/
> Skypename: matjazmarussig
> Phone: 0038641508427
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 18:07, Vanderhyde, James <vanderhyde at sxu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, there is no way to programmatically add objects in Alice 2 or Alice
>> 3, as far as I know.
>>
>> I have entertained the idea of setting up a bunch of trees near the
>> player?s starting point, and then using a program to move them to a new
>> place as the player gets far away from them. This may or may not be easier
>> than just creating a bunch of trees in the scene setup.
>>
>> James
>> ?
>> James Vanderhyde
>> Associate Professor and Department Chair
>> Computer Science
>> Saint Xavier University
>> 3700 W. 103rd St.
>> Chicago, IL 60655
>> 773-298-3454
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:15 PM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> Are there any shortcuts to populate a world with a bunch of scattered
>> trees?
>>
>> I have my character flying around and if the ground is bare, there isn't
>> much sense of movement.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>> _______________________________________________
>> alice-teachers mailing list
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
>> https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Fri Feb 26 18:07:27 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 17:07:27 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Oculus Rift S and Alice Beta Player
Message-ID: <CAMDLx6EJgDw_8-6AvSqwg5FmnM8gUcwxwteK3=jaN1J+yFPRXg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

I've played around with the Alice Beta Player and the Oculus Rift S for the
past two days when I have some free time at work.

I have to say that so far, I am tremendously impressed.

Simply importing a simple program into the player really allows you to
appreciate it with a whole extra dimension.

So far, I found the player to be very stable, and it feels like more of a
finished product than the one I experienced at CSTA in summer 2019.

Kudos to all involved.

Bill
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Sun Feb 28 23:06:09 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2021 22:06:09 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Looking To Restrict Character Within Coordinate
	Boundaries in Alice 3
Message-ID: <CAMDLx6FJouTSzh5MkRM_B0-bO6ni1kYsjM6N5KUFVfEmAsnoqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to restrict a character to within some coordinate boundaries
within an Alice 3 program.

Since there isn't a way to pull coordinate data from an object while
running the program, I'm trying to find a workaround, but everything I've
come up with feels like a kludge.

Does anyone have any reasonably elegant way to do this?

Thanks,
Bill
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