alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
Ziccardi, Adam
aziccardi at opschools.org
Mon Dec 20 10:29:46 EST 2021
So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
network. The cord works well too (unsecured wifi at school).
Latest developments throw me an exception w
<http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever there
is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
get something started.
Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
Have a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
email chain.
Adam Z
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:
> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>
> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>> onboard :(
>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>> such...
>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our
>> school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>> Thanks ahead of time,
>> Adam Z
>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Adam,
>>>
>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
>>>> handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>> .
>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
>>>> Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left
>>>> of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>> Player.
>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>
>>>> The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
>>>> close at the movie theater.
>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy
>>>> it if ever needed)
>>>>
>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>
>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>> Adam Z
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn’t
>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>> link cord. I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>>>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>> 2. Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do
>>>>>> the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>> article)
>>>>>> 3. The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as
>>>>>> a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how
>>>>>> the experience is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr. It can however run as
>>>>>> a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop. This cord can
>>>>>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>>>>>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component. If you
>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>> will power it. It is not an application that you need to purchase. If you
>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Oculus link: To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>>>>>> runs on desktop. If you have this application up and running and you are
>>>>>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>>>>>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>>>>>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>> > > Running the Player in VR
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>> properly running. It is key that the Oculus base application is running
>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>> present.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > • Start the Oculus application
>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>>>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>>>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>>>>> > > OPTA president
>>>>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>>>>> > > Teacher Webpage
>>>>>> > >
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>>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>>> OPTA president
>>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>>> NYS Master Teacher
>>>>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Adam Ziccardi
>>>> 716-209-6482
>>>> OPTA president
>>>> K-12 CS coordinator
>>>> NYS Master Teacher
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>> Adam Ziccardi
>> 716-209-6482
>> OPTA president
>> K-12 CS coordinator
>> NYS Master Teacher
>> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
>>
>>
>
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> Adam Ziccardi
> 716-209-6482
> OPTA president
> K-12 CS coordinator
> NYS Master Teacher
> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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