From vanderhyde at sxu.edu  Wed Dec  1 11:56:58 2021
From: vanderhyde at sxu.edu (Vanderhyde, James)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:56:58 +0000
Subject: alice-teacher Final Alice VR Demo Video and Lessons Learned
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Good job, Bill. I thumbed it up on YouTube, since I don?t have Twitter.

I noticed that in VR the objects have shadows. That is already an improvement over the Alice IDE.

James
?
James Vanderhyde
Associate Professor
Computer Science
Saint Xavier University
3700 W. 103rd St.
Chicago, IL 60655
773-298-3454

On Nov 30, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu<mailto:alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:


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Hey all,

Thanks so much for the feedback on the draft video of the Alice VR program demos!

I wanted to share a few things I learned from my experience:

1. When I first imported a student project into VR, I was disappointed. It seemed less realistic.  One student had created a neat narrative that depended on tight camera angles that focused on only what she wanted the viewer to see. It ruined the illusion when I could swivel my head to control the view because it didn't look right from different angles. It was kind of like if your favorite TV show turned the camera 5 degrees, and you could see the wood holding up the fake walls to the fake room. I realized that we needed to consider all possible camera angles when designing worlds.

2. The Alice Unity player doesn't work exactly the same as the desktop Alice player. In some cases, sloppy or processor-intensive code which didn't cause problems on the desktop player caused issues with the Unity player. I didn't realize that until students tried out their worlds, and we had to troubleshoot on the fly. Doing it again, I will install the Alice Unity player on each student's desktop and have them try their programs out ahead of time without VR goggles. That way, we can work out the bugs before we try it with the VR headset.

3. I've tweeted out the final version of the video. Any likes, comments, or retweets on the tweet would be humbly appreciated. ?
https://twitter.com/Bill_Barnum/status/1465351712386871298?s=20<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBill_Barnum%2Fstatus%2F1465351712386871298%3Fs%3D20&data=04%7C01%7Cvanderhyde%40sxu.edu%7C778634482f6c42411b9808d9b42de75d%7Cfe272ab3cfce455f9427088b59a13be5%7C0%7C0%7C637738931513343154%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=com2efGghY9yQ0vE7Z2m0%2BH1bGQcRbJjFL61YsQqi6c%3D&reserved=0>

Bill

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From aziccardi at opschools.org  Mon Dec  6 07:48:18 2021
From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 07:48:18 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
Message-ID: <CABNFViPD_RLp97yC+fQ=mBOoNPevQr1uV6mN-Hsx-50AE=g=Aw@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all loading
and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player screen is a
screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not *in *the
ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
I've focussed on this:
******
 Running the Player in VR

To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus desktop
application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are properly
running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running before you
start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is present.


   1.

   Start the Oculus application

*****
And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the Remote
Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks ahead
of time for any pointers,
AZ

-- 
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716-209-6482
OPTA president
K-12 CS coordinator
NYS Master Teacher
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From ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu  Mon Dec  6 12:48:59 2021
From: ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Brown)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:48:59 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Adam,

As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you look at this page you will see the download software button associated with the section:

Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.

You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.

Sincerely,

Eric


> On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
> I've focussed on this:
> ******
>  Running the Player in VR
> 
> To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is present.
> 
> 	? Start the Oculus application
> *****
> And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
> I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
> AZ
> 
> -- 
> Adam Ziccardi
> 716-209-6482
> OPTA president
> K-12 CS coordinator
> NYS Master Teacher
> Teacher Webpage
> 
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Mon Dec  6 13:05:53 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:05:53 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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 <F5912C6D-1D1C-4633-8A6B-A70FCA46E125@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Adam,

As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible computer
with a compatible gaming graphics card.

Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible graphic
card.

If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with
people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push
you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as
it will support an Oculus Quest 2.

You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as helpful.

Bill

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a
> desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
> the section:
>
> Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the Oculus
> App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using the
> Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>
> You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently runs
> on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
> > I've focussed on this:
> > ******
> >  Running the Player in VR
> >
> > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus desktop
> application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are properly
> running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running before you
> start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is present.
> >
> >       ? Start the Oculus application
> > *****
> > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the Remote
> Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
> > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks
> ahead of time for any pointers,
> > AZ
> >
> > --
> > Adam Ziccardi
> > 716-209-6482
> > OPTA president
> > K-12 CS coordinator
> > NYS Master Teacher
> > Teacher Webpage
> >
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> > alice-teachers mailing list
> > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
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> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers
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From ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu  Mon Dec  6 13:15:09 2021
From: ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Brown)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 10:15:09 -0800
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Dear All,

After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:

1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR (there are directions in the link)
2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked article)
3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to support that view)

https://www.theverge.com/22218827/oculus-quest-2-wireless-pc-vr-games-how-to

I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how the experience is.

Sincerely,

Eric


> On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Adam,
> 
> As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
> 
> Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible graphic card.
> 
> If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
> 
> You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as helpful.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Adam,
> 
> As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you look at this page you will see the download software button associated with the section:
> 
> Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
> 
> You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
> > I've focussed on this:
> > ******
> >  Running the Player in VR
> > 
> > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is present.
> > 
> >       ? Start the Oculus application
> > *****
> > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
> > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
> > AZ
> > 
> > -- 
> > Adam Ziccardi
> > 716-209-6482
> > OPTA president
> > K-12 CS coordinator
> > NYS Master Teacher
> > Teacher Webpage
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > alice-teachers mailing list
> > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> > To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/alice-teachers
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From aziccardi at opschools.org  Tue Dec  7 09:51:39 2021
From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 09:51:39 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
Adam Z

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t actually
> looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord.
> I found the following article that appears to show:
>
> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
> (there are directions in the link)
> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do the
> same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked article)
> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a
> link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
> support that view)
>
>
> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>
> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how the
> experience is.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Adam,
> >
> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
> >
> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible graphic
> card.
> >
> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with
> people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push
> you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as
> it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
> >
> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
> helpful.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
> > Adam,
> >
> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a
> desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
> the section:
> >
> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the Oculus
> App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using the
> Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
> >
> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently runs
> on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
> > > I've focussed on this:
> > > ******
> > >  Running the Player in VR
> > >
> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
> present.
> > >
> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
> > > *****
> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks
> ahead of time for any pointers,
> > > AZ
> > >
> > > --
> > > Adam Ziccardi
> > > 716-209-6482
> > > OPTA president
> > > K-12 CS coordinator
> > > NYS Master Teacher
> > > Teacher Webpage
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > alice-teachers mailing list
> > > alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu
> > > To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
> > >
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From aziccardi at opschools.org  Tue Dec  7 17:14:38 2021
From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 17:14:38 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Dear All,
Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe <https://www.oculus.com/setup/>.
All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with Quest2.
You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left of
the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and toggle
AirPlay.
In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
Player.
The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very cool,
tea anyone?

 The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset that
you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
close at the movie theater.
(I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy it
if ever needed)

The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it started
up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
Same total immersion as the AirLink.

This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January. If
not, sooner.
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
> Adam Z
>
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t actually
>> looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord.
>> I found the following article that appears to show:
>>
>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>> (there are directions in the link)
>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do the
>> same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked article)
>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a
>> link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>> support that view)
>>
>>
>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>
>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how the
>> experience is.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>> >
>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible graphic
>> card.
>> >
>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with
>> people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push
>> you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as
>> it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>> >
>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>> helpful.
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a
>> desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>> the section:
>> >
>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>> >
>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>> runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
>> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>> > > I've focussed on this:
>> > > ******
>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>> > >
>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>> present.
>> > >
>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>> > > *****
>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again. Thanks
>> ahead of time for any pointers,
>> > > AZ
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>> > > 716-209-6482
>> > > OPTA president
>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>> > > Teacher Webpage
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From wbarnum at elmhurst205.org  Wed Dec  8 09:17:55 2021
From: wbarnum at elmhurst205.org (Barnum, William)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 08:17:55 -0600
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Adam,

Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work with
the Oculus Link?

Bill

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> Dear All,
> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
> handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe <https://www.oculus.com/setup/>.
> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
> Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with Quest2.
> You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left of
> the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and toggle
> AirPlay.
> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
> Player.
> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very cool,
> tea anyone?
>
>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset that
> you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
> close at the movie theater.
> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy it
> if ever needed)
>
> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>
> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January. If
> not, sooner.
> Adam Z
>
>
>
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> wrote:
>
>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>> Adam Z
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t actually
>>> looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord.
>>> I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>
>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do
>>> the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>> article)
>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a
>>> link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>> support that view)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>
>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how the
>>> experience is.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Adam,
>>> >
>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>> >
>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>> graphic card.
>>> >
>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations with
>>> people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to push
>>> you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long as
>>> it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>> >
>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>> helpful.
>>> >
>>> > Bill
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Adam,
>>> >
>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a
>>> desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
>>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>> the section:
>>> >
>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>> >
>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>>> runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
>>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Eric
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
>>> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>> > > ******
>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>> > >
>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>> present.
>>> > >
>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>> > > *****
>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>> > > AZ
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Adam Ziccardi
>>> > > 716-209-6482
>>> > > OPTA president
>>> > > K-12 CS coordinator
>>> > > NYS Master Teacher
>>> > > Teacher Webpage
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
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>>> > > To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
>>> > >
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From aziccardi at opschools.org  Thu Dec  9 08:12:20 2021
From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 08:12:20 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Bill,
My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
onboard :(
The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of the
Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
such...
I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our
school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
Thanks ahead of time,
Adam Z
* if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter mailboxes,
my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work with
> the Oculus Link?
>
> Bill
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
>> handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>> .
>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
>> Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with Quest2.
>> You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left of
>> the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and toggle
>> AirPlay.
>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>> Player.
>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very cool,
>> tea anyone?
>>
>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
>> close at the movie theater.
>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy it
>> if ever needed)
>>
>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>
>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January. If
>> not, sooner.
>> Adam Z
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:51 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>> Adam Z
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t actually
>>>> looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the link cord.
>>>> I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do
>>>> the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>> article)
>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as a
>>>> link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>> support that view)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how
>>>> the experience is.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Adam,
>>>> >
>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>> >
>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>> graphic card.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>> >
>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>>> helpful.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bill
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Adam,
>>>> >
>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as a
>>>> desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
>>>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>>>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>> the section:
>>>> >
>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>> >
>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>>>> runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
>>>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>>>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>>>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>> >
>>>> > Eric
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
>>>> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>> > > ******
>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>> > >
>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>> present.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>> > > *****
>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>> > > AZ
>>>> > >
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 08:20:43 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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Please disrerad last message. I found this:
https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> Bill,
> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
> onboard :(
> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
> such...
> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our
> school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
> Thanks ahead of time,
> Adam Z
> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Adam,
>>
>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work with
>> the Oculus Link?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
>>> handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>> .
>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
>>> Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left
>>> of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>> Player.
>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very cool,
>>> tea anyone?
>>>
>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
>>> close at the movie theater.
>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy
>>> it if ever needed)
>>>
>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>
>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January. If
>>> not, sooner.
>>> Adam Z
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>> Adam Z
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do
>>>>> the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>> article)
>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as
>>>>> a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how
>>>>> the experience is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bill
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as
>>>>> a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
>>>>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>>>>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>> the section:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>>>>> runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
>>>>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>>>>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>>>>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Eric
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's all
>>>>> loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>> > > ******
>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>> present.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>> > > *****
>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
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From: aziccardi at opschools.org (Ziccardi, Adam)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:29:46 -0500
Subject: alice-teacher Alice VR Quest2
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So, it's running very well. The AirLink works well on a secured wifi
network. The cord works well too  (unsecured wifi at school).
Latest developments throw me an exception w
<http://www.alice.org/forums/showthread.php?p=58904#post58904>henever there
is a mouse listener event so no clicking on things 9for now).
We changed our code to just use proximity listeners and it works well to
get something started.
Here's a file attached I recently built for demo,
Have  a Happy Holiday Season, lmk if anyone wants to collaborate off the
email chain.
Adam Z

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:20 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
wrote:

> Please disrerad last message. I found this:
>
> https://www.roadtovr.com/how-to-tell-pc-virtual-reality-vr-oculus-rift-htc-vive-steam-vr-compatibility-tool/
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> My home computer has a higher end vid card. The school machines have
>> onboard :(
>> The school machines I tested all gave me a red stripe across the top of
>> the Oculus Windows app saying "can't connect, video card no good" or some
>> such...
>> I would like to know the floor value for vid cards. I'm heading into our
>> school basement prowling the deprecated hardware.
>> Thanks ahead of time,
>> Adam Z
>> * if there is a way to communicate off list so as to not clutter
>> mailboxes, my email is aziccardi at opschools.org. Thanks*
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Adam,
>>>
>>> Did you need a gaming graphics card in your computer to make it work
>>> with the Oculus Link?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 6:02 AM Ziccardi, Adam <aziccardi at opschools.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Air Link works very well. I installed the Oculus software that seems to
>>>> handle it all, Oculus Setup.exe
>>>> <https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub2N1bHVzLmNvbS9zZXR1cC8%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=ecb9fbc8>
>>>> .
>>>> All 4 of those links on the page d'l the same installer, currently 4954
>>>> Kb.. The installer then loads the app.
>>>> Running the app 1st time, connect using FB account or Oculus account.
>>>> It then asks for what type of headset you're using so I went with
>>>> Quest2. You can also add other headsets in the app once it's running.
>>>> In the Oculus App Settings, Beta, turn ON AirLink.
>>>> In the headset click on Quick settings zone near the clock on the left
>>>> of the taskbar, open up the Settings gearwheel in the upper Right and
>>>> toggle AirPlay.
>>>> In the headset, connect to the PC, press launch, and launch the Alice
>>>> Player.
>>>> The Underwater Explore and Amazon BoatRide worked flawlessly. Very
>>>> cool, tea anyone?
>>>>
>>>>  The VR Desktop app from Oculus ($19.99) shows a panel in the headset
>>>> that you can adjust size, tilt, curve and set its vehicle to the headset.
>>>> You could create a deeply immersive viewpoint similar to sitting really
>>>> close at the movie theater.
>>>> (I'll be "returning" mine in favor of AirLink. I'm sure I could re-buy
>>>> it if ever needed)
>>>>
>>>> The corded method with the PC worked just like the AirLink. I had to
>>>> uncheck all the AirLink connections and connect via the wire.
>>>> It asked to run Rift apps on the Quest or some such setting when it
>>>> started up. Once it was all connected, launch AlicePlayer.exe.
>>>> Same total immersion as the AirLink.
>>>>
>>>> This is where my prog 1 classes will be living until the end of the
>>>> semester. Thank you all so much for your help.
>>>> I'll post up vids or projects during exam week at the end of January.
>>>> If not, sooner.
>>>> Adam Z
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> This is great info and ideas, thank you all.
>>>>> I will try all this tonight and send a message with what transpires!
>>>>> Adam Z
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:27 PM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After I responded I did a little more digging because I hadn?t
>>>>>> actually looked into using virtual pc to do this since I had tested the
>>>>>> link cord.  I found the following article that appears to show:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.  Virtual PC can be used to achieve the goal of playing desktop VR
>>>>>> (there are directions in the link)
>>>>>> 2.  Quest 2 has a beta program called air Link that can be used to do
>>>>>> the same as the corded link approach (directions included in the linked
>>>>>> article)
>>>>>> 3.  The cord that comes with the quest is intended and can be used as
>>>>>> a link cord (edits to the article call it out and the comments seem to
>>>>>> support that view)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudGhldmVyZ2UuY29tLzIyMjE4ODI3L29jdWx1cy1xdWVzdC0yLXdpcmVsZXNzLXBjLXZyLWdhbWVzLWhvdy10bw%3D%3D&_s=b3JjaHBhcms%3D&_c=9601cb83
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to hear if anyone attempts any of these methods and how
>>>>>> the experience is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Dec 6, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Barnum, William via alice-teachers <
>>>>>> alice-teachers at lists.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As Eric mentioned, you need to ensure that you have a compatible
>>>>>> computer with a compatible gaming graphics card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Not every desktop computer has or can even support a compatible
>>>>>> graphic card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you are unsure, it might be worth checking for recommendations
>>>>>> with people on an Oculus Quest 2 Facebook group. People there may try to
>>>>>> push you towards a high-end card, but you don't need anything fancy as long
>>>>>> as it will support an Oculus Quest 2.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You can also try contacting Oculus support, but they may not be as
>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Bill
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM Eric Brown <ewbrown at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Adam,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As you note the quest 2 is a stand alone vr.  It can however run as
>>>>>> a desktop VR using the link cord to connect it to a desktop.  This cord can
>>>>>> be purchased separately or I believe the charging cord that comes with it
>>>>>> may work for this purpose when removed from the plug component.  If you
>>>>>> have it connected to a desktop there is an Oculus desktop application that
>>>>>> will power it.  It is not an application that you need to purchase.  If you
>>>>>> look at this page you will see the download software button associated with
>>>>>> the section:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Oculus link:  To play Oculus Rift content on Quest 2, install the
>>>>>> Oculus App on a compatible gaming computer, then connect your headset using
>>>>>> the Oculus Link cable or similar high-quality USB 3 cable.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You can think of Alice VR as Oculus Rift content since it currently
>>>>>> runs on desktop.  If you have this application up and running and you are
>>>>>> viewing the home screen in the headset associated with this application
>>>>>> then when you launch the Alice Player it will take over the headset and you
>>>>>> will see the Alice VR landing space and menu.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Eric
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > On Dec 6, 2021, at 4:48 AM, Ziccardi, Adam <
>>>>>> aziccardi at opschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Good morning, I am off a bit, maybe with the VR (Quest2). It's
>>>>>> all loading and running well, incredible devices :) but...the ALice Player
>>>>>> screen is a screen in the VR Desktop mode that's "over there" and I'm not
>>>>>> in the ALice world. I'm not sure if that's how it is supposed to be.
>>>>>> > > I've focussed on this:
>>>>>> > > ******
>>>>>> > >  Running the Player in VR
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > To have the player run in VR you need to first start the Oculus
>>>>>> desktop application and be sure your VR headset and controllers are
>>>>>> properly running.  It is key that the Oculus base application is  running
>>>>>> before you start up the Alice Player so that it will detect that VR is
>>>>>> present.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >       ? Start the Oculus application
>>>>>> > > *****
>>>>>> > > And I'm quite sure I don't know if the Oculus desktop app is the
>>>>>> Remote Desktop App I got for $19.99 in the VR world.
>>>>>> > > I'll be back on this tonight and will begin experiments again.
>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time for any pointers,
>>>>>> > > AZ
>>>>>> > >
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> 716-209-6482
> OPTA president
> K-12 CS coordinator
> NYS Master Teacher
> Teacher Webpage <https://www.opschools.org/Domain/2958>
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